Survey : Correlating Limited Opening Knowledge with Federation Rating

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It may be possible to get to 2200 without theory (I think this means they have natural talent) it shouldn't suggest that opening theory can't help or actually hurts you unless it's all you do. I studied openings and strategy because that's what I enjoyed, but I have to work on tactics to to get to the next level. It's not the most important thing to learn, but it's still a good tool, and for me it's just plain interesting!

Wild Fire, could you post any of those games you played? It'd be interesting to see you own a master.

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Elubas wrote:

Engines are good training. They're just frustrating to play against because they will not blunder and punish any tactical errors, and are extremely resilient. Even GM's can make careless mistakes against a computer that can blow their position apart or lose the initiative. A computer would never do that, though, although they can make positional mistakes of course but they're too hard to punish. I bet frustration is the reason why you wouldn't want to play a CPU, which makes it boring. But if you're 2500, you should have the patience to at least draw consistently.


Yea but I'd have to sit down and play a computer for a significant amount of time.  I just can't bring myself to do that.  I only play longer games with human opponents.  Don't worry though, I'll end up proving my prospective 2500 rating the old-fashioned way.

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WildFireMayhem wrote:
OODA_Loop wrote:
WildFireMayhem wrote:

I've never done extensive study of any of the known openings.  I have no clue what the names are of the openings I play, I just know that they work in blitz.  The problem is I don't have a Federation rating to help you out in your comparisons, but I'd say I'd probably be around 2500 FIDE in real life give or take. Of course don't write that down for your study because I'm just estimating.  It would probably be higher actually.


 I'm sorry but that's virtually impossible. No one can have a rating anywhere   near GM level and not actually know what their rating is.

Did you mean 1500? (I'm not sure you can be 1500 FIDE just USCF but anyway...)


Yup I meant 2500 but I was just venturing a guess and I told the OP not to include that info in his study.  All I have to go on is the fact that I almost never lose and my high  success rate playing against masters at ICC in just about all time controls.  Of course I'll have to get an official real-life rating for it to mean much and I know that.  My point was that I've never had any use for learning openings and still don't know any of them after say a couple moves.  I just play from instinct and often win.


So you're up there in grandmaster strength but aren't rated? I call bullshit.

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PanaPawn wrote:


So you're up there in grandmaster strength but aren't rated? I call bullshit.


I can't say I value your opinion on anything chess-related, my dog would be rated higher than you.

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He's obviously making it up. Besides, if he beats IMs all the time at standard time controls so easily, he'd be one of the best players on this site.

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gabrielconroy wrote:

He's obviously making it up. Besides, if he beats IMs all the time at standard time controls so easily, he'd be one of the best players on this site.


I haven't hit the slightest bit of resistance as of yet.  Next week I'll be in the 2300s, the week after that 2400s, the week after that 2500s, etc.  It's easy.  I've played at this site before, and now it'll be even easier because ratings inflation has clearly taken place.  Like I said earlier the only reason I'm plodding along slowly is because I felt like playing a 120 games at once when I first created this account.  I just wanted to see if I would get sloppy blitzing through them.  I did, but not too much and it was actually fun.  Now I'm playing serious...  I just sliced through 5 - 2100s like they were beginners.  And on it goes.

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Schachgeek wrote:


Here's someone who on chess.com is still losing to and drawing with 1400 and 1300-rateds in turn based games and in blitz can only manage 75% wins vs average opponents rated 1621.

Damn, that's impressive.


 

Think about this Shachgeek.  You are 2500+ here in turnbased chess (a true testament to the fact that there is huge rating inflation.)

Your average opponent rating is... *gasp*... 1400+.  LoL  I mean seriously, out of everyone in this thread, that is probably the lowest opponent average of anyone.  And there are a lot of low rated players commenting in here.

It's sad, you've obviously made a conscience attempt to play the weakest players you can find.  Petrified of losing much?  Do you do it so you can look yourself in the mirror afterwards and tell yourself you are a good chess player?

Are you really 2200 FIDE as you say in your profile?  I just checked the FIDE list and you weren't on it.  Unless you are referring to ICCF... in which case... it's worthless.

 

p.s.  Your blitz is 1400.  Ohhhh but you disconnect all the time blah blah.  So does everyone else.

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How would you check the FIDE list for him? He doesn't give his surname in his profile.

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gabrielconroy wrote:

How would you check the FIDE list for him? He doesn't give his surname in his profile.


What he doesn't know is that I know exactly who he his.

Am I right, Rich H****ey?

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WildFireMayhem wrote:
gabrielconroy wrote:

How would you check the FIDE list for him? He doesn't give his surname in his profile.


What he doesn't know is that I know exactly who he his.

Am I right, Rich H****ey?


Right. Just like how you "know" that isn't immortalgammer's real picture. Laughing 

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^^^^ oh yea dude I totally screwed up about immortalgamer's picture, I'll admit that.  I'm still in disbelief on how that situation turned out.  The look on my face right now is still a standard "wtf???" expression.  Undecided I was not expecting that.

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WildFireMayhem wrote:

^^^^ oh yea dude I totally screwed up about immortalgamer's picture, I'll admit that.  I'm still in disbelief on how that situation turned out.  The look on my face right now is still a standard "wtf???" expression.    I was not expecting that.


Knowingly lying about something like that is not just "screwing up".

EDIT: Actually, I take that back. I hadn't seen your explanation when I wrote that. It seems reasonable. Sorry.

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No prob, it did look bad at first I know. Yea the guy in his profile picture was on a TV show, and then when I asked him a couple times about the show, he said he never heard of it.  Since he would have to be a pseudo-celebrity I automatically assumed he just copped the picture from the internet.

I did make up a few lies as I figured that would draw him out of his facade... but yea, that backfired.  Wow.

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PanaPawn wrote:
WildFireMayhem wrote:
OODA_Loop wrote:
WildFireMayhem wrote:

I've never done extensive study of any of the known openings.  I have no clue what the names are of the openings I play, I just know that they work in blitz.  The problem is I don't have a Federation rating to help you out in your comparisons, but I'd say I'd probably be around 2500 FIDE in real life give or take. Of course don't write that down for your study because I'm just estimating.  It would probably be higher actually.


 I'm sorry but that's virtually impossible. No one can have a rating anywhere   near GM level and not actually know what their rating is.

Did you mean 1500? (I'm not sure you can be 1500 FIDE just USCF but anyway...)


Yup I meant 2500 but I was just venturing a guess and I told the OP not to include that info in his study.  All I have to go on is the fact that I almost never lose and my high  success rate playing against masters at ICC in just about all time controls.  Of course I'll have to get an official real-life rating for it to mean much and I know that.  My point was that I've never had any use for learning openings and still don't know any of them after say a couple moves.  I just play from instinct and often win.


So you're up there in grandmaster strength but aren't rated? I call bullshit.


I wouldn't blame you. Someone who has been playing seriously for a month and a half is in no position to give advice. One thing I do know, however, is that you stand no chance of becoming that strong a player without ever playing in tournaments and thus becoming rated.

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WildFireMayhem wrote:

I've never done extensive study of any of the known openings.  I have no clue what the names are of the openings I play, I just know that they work in blitz.  The problem is I don't have a Federation rating to help you out in your comparisons, but I'd say I'd probably be around 2500 FIDE in real life give or take. Of course don't write that down for your study because I'm just estimating.  It would probably be higher actually.


id say more arond 2000 or lower

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The crucible of organized OTB is, quite simply, the real thing. It's a rare thing indeed to get a  master rating from your first tournnament. 2500? Pleased to meet you Mr. Morphy,

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WildFireMayhem wrote:

I've never done extensive study of any of the known openings.  I have no clue what the names are of the openings I play, I just know that they work in blitz.  The problem is I don't have a Federation rating to help you out in your comparisons, but I'd say I'd probably be around 2500 FIDE in real life give or take. Of course don't write that down for your study because I'm just estimating.  It would probably be higher actually.


You know, chess.com gives free premium memberships to piddling patzer NMs! Not even FIDE masters mind you, but lousy USCF masters. Those are guys a player like you can grind into paste. Since you're in New York why don't you arrange to pop down to Chess.com (which is in NY), show the fellows there your skill and get comp'd on chess.com for life! You don't have to play an engine, you could play some of the weak-ass masters they have on staff. I'm sure they're all eager to play an auto-didact genius like yourself.

Hell man, screw that! What am I talking about!? An unrated GM holy crap you're golden! We'll get you a membership at the Marshall CC in NYC. You sand bag a few games to get an official rating of like 1201, and then we'll just work our way up winning club prizes and section prizes until we get to your true rating. It'll take a while but we'll get paid every step of the way. We don't have to work for the next year or two... and then with the appearance fees and endorsements etc. hell kid, we're gonna get paid, I saw we, because I'm your manager.

But before we start, I'm wondering if your pants being on fire is what started  the Wildfire Mayhem? 

On a serious note ...  my response dignifies your blather far more than it deserves.

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PanaPawn wrote:


I wouldn't blame you. Someone who has been playing seriously for a month and a half is in no position to give advice. One thing I do know, however, is that you stand no chance of becoming that strong a player without ever playing in tournaments and thus becoming rated.


Yup you are right, and I'll have to prove it.  Sorry about my comment earlier, we were all kind of getting riled up in this thread I guess.  Now that I'm looking at it a couple hours later, it seems a bit much.

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Krish30 wrote:
WildFireMayhem wrote:

I've never done extensive study of any of the known openings.  I have no clue what the names are of the openings I play, I just know that they work in blitz.  The problem is I don't have a Federation rating to help you out in your comparisons, but I'd say I'd probably be around 2500 FIDE in real life give or take. Of course don't write that down for your study because I'm just estimating.  It would probably be higher actually.


id say more arond 2000 or lower


I can tell you for a certain a real-life 2000 rated player doesn't even post a slight challenge to me, so we can rule your comment out.