Survey: How do you treat those that refuse a draw?

If they refuse a draw offer, I'll make them an offer they can't refuse.

i don't think its a draw. its just that black doesn't know how to win

i think your wrong esragon old chap. you can win with king and kt. pawn if yo know what your about. ever thought of losing a move by moving the king to the rook side? you cant win if its a rooks pawn. not getting confused are you?

You're the second poster to claim this.

Either player may offer a draw at any time. It is perfectly acceptable for the player with the poorer position to offer a draw.

It is not acceptable when repeated offers are being used as a deliberate distraction (in this case a player may complain to the TD).

It could be considered a breach of etiquette for a player who is decisively behind to offer a draw (time trouble is a consideration too, not just position -- eg. having 60 seconds to deliver mate with KNB-vs-K). In the specific case posted in this forum thread, the position was recognized as drawn (it hardly matters which player noticed it) and the draw offer was wholly appropriate.

You'd be surprised though how many people don't know how to play pawn endings out. That's probably why I wouldn't rush to accept a draw as white until I knew that black won't mess it up.

I had a game where I was clearly winning but my opponent had connected passed pawns. There were quite a few one move wins every other move loses positions. My opponent played until the end of my potential danger before resigning. I thought that was the right call.

Hey; forget about the position or the material or the draw; does not each player have a chance/possibility to WIN on time; in timed games!!  May be your opponent was trying to win on time?

If they won't accept the draw I usually try to get a draw due to repetition or just play it out.

In the initial game posted, why did the game continue past move 56 which was a draw due to repetition?

With seconds remaining, there is time for premove scrambles but no time for claiming a draw. That's my guess, anyway.

lol, the reaction was indeed childish, but funny.

"White is rude to offer the draw when he did, I would play it out then too.  The player with the inferior position should never offer a draw by agreement"

Says who? The person who would let their opponent's time run out if they forgot to press the clock?

The problem is that the black King can't get far enough in front of the pawn to get it to the queening square protected. White gets and can maintain opposition when needed, thus Black can never progress. Estragon certainly does know what he is talking about.

This is one of those endgames you should know cold so that you can play it without thinking about it (for the losing side by material, not by position). I have seen similar positions turn up in other people's tournament games and I've had a few in casual OTB games. You might be surprised who does and doesn't know this endgame and related ones (the ones where the stronger side can win).

Not only play it, but be aware of opportunities to simplify to these drawn positions when you're behind in material.

why would anyone move the white bishop? just move the rooks anywhere along the back rank for instance and it has to be drawn.