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I have read most of Dickens novels:  Get an education.  Begin with the Greek and Roman classics. Then read the classics of the Medieval era; then read the European classics. Stendhal's Scarlett and Black in the Penguin edition will show you what you have never experienced and lack.  You will fail to understand anything in that book.  Read Tolstoy, Gogol, Read Dostoyevsky's Notes from the Underground: you will gobble it up and not understand any of it. Neither will you understand Swift's classic Gulliver's Travels. Read H. G. Wells social statements and works. Read the English eugenicists. Read Voltaire.  Read Balzac, Victor Hugo, Sartre's Being and Nothingness,  read Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, Camus, Kafka.  Read The Catcher in the Rye. Read Kerouac's On the Road, read Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath. Read the 19th century novels of America.  Willa Cather, Mark Twain, Walt Whitman, Edgar Allen Poe, Hemingway, Zane Grey. Edgar Rice Burroughs

Read a thousand more books and ask questions of all of them and yourself

After you get an education and become literate: you will disown your former self


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turak1 wrote:

I have read most of Dickens novels:  Get an education.  Begin with the Greek and Roman classics. Then read the classics of the Medieval era; then read the European classics. Stendhal's Scarlett and Black in the Penguin edition will show you what you have never experienced and lack.  You will fail to understand anything in that book.  Read Tolstoy, Gogol, Read Dostoyevsky's Notes from the Underground: you will gobble it up and not understand any of it. Neither will you understand Swift's classic Gulliver's Travels. Read H. G. Wells social statements and works. Read the English eugenicists. Read Voltaire.  Read Balzac, Victor Hugo, Sartre's Being and Nothingness,  read Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, Camus, Kafka.  Read The Catcher in the Rye. Read Kerouac's On the Road, read Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath. Read the 19th century novels of America.  Willa Cather, Mark Twain, Walt Whitman, Edgar Allen Poe, Hemingway, Zane Grey. Edgar Rice Burroughs

Read a thousand more books and ask questions of all of them and yourself

After you get an education and become literate: you will disown your former self


hhhmmmm.Quite.Indeed. Sir, in this world of withheld permissions may you fly higher than the skies. That is all, after three laughs. LMAO, LFMAO and a LOLOLLOLOLOL.

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You have learned very well from the sophists, which taught- when losing a debate the best thing to do is try and create disarray as this may confound your opponent. 

Since you have not answered my question or seem to respond to quote 89. 

But this is quite fun and  I admire your efforts.  Your trolling powers have increased but i must wonder who is "trolling" who. As, I am getting you to use your trolling to better yourself lmao. For what takes you hours,or even days takes me mere minutes or sometimes seconds. This is your first lesson, my son.

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turak1 wrote:

I have read most of Dickens novels:  Get an education.  Begin with the Greek and Roman classics. Then read the classics of the Medieval era; then read the European classics. Stendhal's Scarlett and Black in the Penguin edition will show you what you have never experienced and lack.  You will fail to understand anything in that book.  Read Tolstoy, Gogol, Read Dostoyevsky's Notes from the Underground: you will gobble it up and not understand any of it. Neither will you understand Swift's classic Gulliver's Travels. Read H. G. Wells social statements and works. Read the English eugenicists. Read Voltaire.  Read Balzac, Victor Hugo, Sartre's Being and Nothingness,  read Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, Camus, Kafka.  Read The Catcher in the Rye. Read Kerouac's On the Road, read Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath. Read the 19th century novels of America.  Willa Cather, Mark Twain, Walt Whitman, Edgar Allen Poe, Hemingway, Zane Grey. Edgar Rice Burroughs

Read a thousand more books and ask questions of all of them and yourself

After you get an education and become literate: you will disown your former self


Wow - I've read everything on your list just about - we'd probably have a lot to talk about ... but I think one thing you've not read are the messages I sent to you since it's been 2 days now without reply to them.

Anyway I still enjoy the multitude of different ideas you three keep bringing to the arguement and hope to learn more from each new direction the debate takes, and we shouldn't be discounting the importance of small contributions such as the post which only said "seems" - after all experience has shown, and a true philosophy will always show, that a vast, perhaps the larger portion of the truth arises from the seemingly irrelevant.

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letsgohome wrote:

You have learned very well from the sophists, which taught- when losing a debate the best thing to do is try and create disarray as this may confound your opponent. 

Since you have not answered my question or seem to respond to quote 89. 

But this is quite fun and  I admire your efforts.  Your trolling powers have increased but i must wonder who is "trolling" who. As, I am getting you to use your trolling to better yourself lmao. For what takes you hours,or even days takes me mere minutes or sometimes seconds. This is your first lesson, my son.

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olichris wrote:

Well I am willing to admit I may be wrong about that, but I sure as heck ain't wrong that you are not a happy chappie, and if you would like to debate that with someone who does know an awful lot about such things in a polite manner I am happy to do so.

If not please feel free to have the last word .

I am not interested in debate or arguement.  Both are based on the adversarial combat of who has the biggest puiffed up ego and both are a waste of time and intelligence.  You do not learn anything from debate or arguement.  You learn from LIFE experience and cooperation.  This means if you want to learn: you must first learn how to learn.  It also means you must learn how the Universe actually works and how LIFE works and how YOU work and what the Universal Truths, Principles and Dynamics of the Universe are and how they apply to you, LIFE, civilization and the human species.... That's your job, not mine; I've already done that.  When you learn to agree with logic, and facts.  When you learn how to face facts and face reality and admit when you are wrong and find out what you are right about and become able to tell the difference between the truth and a lie... when you lget rid of your ego and your pride and your stupidity and your arrogance and your snobbery and grow up and becaome a mature rational, sane person:  Look me up.  Until then go argue with the other megalomaniacvs on this forum.  They will be glad to waste your time and you will learn absolutely nothing.

Your use of words exposes your lack of a proper education.  You either are wrong or you aren't.  Your use of the word 'may' in this context is meaningless.  If you don't know: find out if you are wrong or right.  Until you do the hard work of making certain one way or the other you're a waste of time. Nobody do this  for you.  You have to do it yourself: like I did it: the hard way.

 

Yours

Olichris

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@turak1

Still no reply for me - on here or my messages ... why do i get missed out?

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olichris wrote:

Oh dear two very unhappy posters the last two, one very logical, one very emotional !

There just isn't any hope for them is there ?

 

There is no hope for you: You are reversing things. Living inside your head is a common dysfunction with chess players:  They are cut off from the real world; disconnected from reality.  You are babbling to yourself.  Shut off your distraction machine which you are addicted to and try to go cold turkey for 24 hours without using it... If you can do that there may be some hope for you.  If not then face your addiction and deal with it.

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Soorat92 wrote:

@turak1

Still no reply for me - on here or my messages ... why do i get missed out?

what message? I didn't get one from you.

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turak1 wrote:
Soorat92 wrote:

@turak1

Still no reply for me - on here or my messages ... why do i get missed out?

what message? I didn't get one from you.

You sent me a private message 2 weeks ago - where you kindly pointed out that I am an "immature fool" for not smashing my computer to pieces. You then went on to tell me how you're 65 and a lot wiser than myself.

I replied acknowledging that I have a lot to learn - that I am young - and that we should always seek the wisdom of someone older and wiser - but I had wanted you to explain to me why you chose to insult me when I had earlier attempted to help you with your computer not when it wasn't working with  the forums - (albeit without success - but not for want of trying).

I will always try to take responsibility for anything I may have done or said which may have warranted such harsh words from yourself - but at present this "immature fool" isn't sure what she has done or said to be thus called...

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turak1 wrote:
olichris wrote:

Thankyou for the elucidating and well argued response !

 I can see letsgohomes point now !

You are semantically illiterate.  The word 'seem' is total garbae.  The word 'seem' is your semantic error because you do not understand science and do not understand the scientific facts.  Scienntific studies do not 'seem' to prove that cooperation is superior to competition:  They prove it a thousand times over. You eggheads are so detached from reality you csannot absorb or digest or understand irrefutable scientific facts which exist:  They do not 'seem' to exist:  The exist and they are irrefutable.  Until you face facts and admit you are wrong and say you are wrong: you are existing inside your own fantasyland of self-delusion.

First read my book and I will read yours.  If you have not read a book in 10 years I will understand you can't read a book anymore.  My book can be found on the internet under 'thepath of splitness dort com' if you can understaand the first chapter.  I have read many of Dicken's books a long l;omg time ago.  I suggest you first read the classics of the greeks and Romans and then aspire to the medieval classic of Virgil and then read Stendhal's classic ' Scarlet and Black in the penguin editioin: the other translations are poor.  You are an insufferable boor.

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Am I still to be ignored? :(

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Soorat92 wrote:
turak1 wrote:
Soorat92 wrote:

@turak1

Still no reply for me - on here or my messages ... why do i get missed out?

what message? I didn't get one from you.

You sent me a private message 2 weeks ago - where you kindly pointed out that I am an "immature fool" for not smashing my computer to pieces. You then went on to tell me how you're 65 and a lot wiser than myself.

I replied acknowledging that I have a lot to learn - that I am young - and that we should always seek the wisdom of someone older and wiser - but I had wanted you to explain to me why you chose to insult me when I had earlier attempted to help you with your computer not when it wasn't working with  the forums - (albeit without success - but not for want of trying).

I will always try to take responsibility for anything I may have done or said which may have warranted such harsh words from yourself - but at present this "immature fool" isn't sure what she has done or said to be thus called...

 

You're mixing me up: this is an internet forum:  these are postss on a forum not messages. I don't know where theis personal message thing is on this web site if there is one.  You say you sent me a personal message?  Where?  I haven't been notified of any personal message.

The reason I called you an immature fool is because you should never learn from anyone older than you UNLESS it strikes a harmonious chord in your heart of hearts and rings a bell iin your mind.  You should learn from your own experiences; you should never trust anything an older person says or does.  You should trust your own instincts.  I'm 65 years old and I became wise because I did not FOLLOW ANYBODY ELSE BUT MYSELF.  You're still looking for the daddy or mommy you never had.  If you want to learn what I learned from 65 years of experience read my book ; it's free on the internet at 'the path of splitnessdot com.  Then you'll know everything I know and will stop following me around and you will stop looking for a fucking guru.  Gurus are idiots.  Does this answer your need for a reply?  I hope so because I do not like ass kissers or pleasers or people who are in awe of me: they piss me off.

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EXCUSE ME! Firstly I know for a fact you called me an immature fool after you ordered me to smash my computer up to "save myself" and I politely suggested that was a little extreme!

Secondly - Exactly what do you mean by this statement??

"You're still looking for the daddy or mommy you never had."

I would like a response to both parts please

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Soorat92 wrote:

EXCUSE ME! Firstly I know for a fact you called me an immature fool after you ordered me to smash my computer up to "save myself" and I politely suggested that was a little extreme!

Secondly - Exactly what do you mean by this statement??

"You're still looking for the daddy or mommy you never had."

 

Your first instinct was not extreme.  You're just a little wimp who doesn't do what they say that want to: that's all.  You want to be enlightened and educated.  Go ahead and read my book; but you never will.  You're too busy being insulted.  Do you know how many millions of other little egos feel 'insulted' every day  by reading posts on internet forums?  Counteless millions.  Do you want to be one of the countless asses who are insulted by the truth?  Then go right ahead and feel insulted. I myself have never been insulted by anything anyone has ever said to me or written.  In fact I do not know what an insult is.   I do not understand people like you and I do not understand why people like you feel isulted about anything anyone says to you.

There is a very apt definition of what is called an insult.  If it bothers you then it's true.  If it doesn't bother you then it's not true.  If I called you a red faced monkey would you feel insulted?  Of course not:  Becsause you're not a red-faced monkey.

I already told you I am not interested in debate or arguement.  You do not listen to me.  Why hould I listen to an idiot who does not listen to me? If you can answer this question you wil will not bother me any more.  You want to argue with me.  Go argue with somebody else.  What matters is not my opinion of you but your own opinion of yourself.  If you are so insecure as to worry about what some stranger on an internet forum thinks of you... you have a persional issue to deal with in which thankfully I am not involved in.  You have a choice.  Read my book or get ^%$#@-ed.  Capiche? Goodbye.

I would like a response to both parts please

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Harald-V wrote:

Why is chess.com so full of shit?

 

The people

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turak1 wrote:
Harald-V wrote:

Why is chess.com so full of shit?

 

The people

Firstly allow me to enlighten you dear sir

 

You're the one calling me names - not the other way around

You reply and argue back with everyone on here who posts something contrary to your own opinion - and yet if I may be so bold as to suggest that I do not believe you have an opinion of your own.

On one post you insult me for listening to what others say - then the next insult me for not listening to you.

Forgive me if I seem rude - but actually I'm a very stubborn girl - and while I may seek the wisdom of those older and wiser than myself, and read a whole range of books as I look to improve my understanding - I also have my own opinion which governs what I choose to accept and disregard.

I can in all honesty say that nothing anyone has written on here causes me to feel insulted - but can you truely say the same for yourself? If we allow ourselves to be dragged down to petty name calling - as I am shamed to say you have in your posts and messages to me - I'd suggest you cannot wholehardly be as exempt from taking some of the posts and messages as personally as you claim.

The part I asked for clarification on - your chioce of words "You're still looking for the daddy or mommy you never had" - I wanted to ensure there was no more reason behind that statement than more petty name calling - because I have personal reasons to find issue with that particular choice of phrase if it had more deep founding meaning behind it. Your subsequent post leads me to believe there is no more meaning behind it and so I wont even let that part bother me.

As to your final statement about reading or book ... or the alternate suggestion - I think instead - I will choice neither - I will hold my head up high - feel good about myself - and if I think more about your statement - only feel sad for you and your narrow minded view.

I will leave a couple of last suggestions for you though - if you find reading forums so insulting why do you read and contribute to them? And - if you suggest I would be better off in life smashing my computer to pieces - and then suggesting your advice is so good - then why aren't you taking your own advice to heart?

Take care

xxx

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Soorat92 wrote:
turak1 wrote:
Harald-V wrote:

Why is chess.com so full of shit?

 

The people

Firstly allow me to enlighten you dear sir

 

You're the one calling me names - not the other way around

You reply and argue back with everyone on here who posts something contrary to your own opinion - and yet if I may be so bold as to suggest that I do not believe you have an opinion of your own.

On one post you insult me for listening to what others say - then the next insult me for not listening to you.

Forgive me if I seem rude - but actually I'm a very stubborn girl - and while I may seek the wisdom of those older and wiser than myself, and read a whole range of books as I look to improve my understanding - I also have my own opinion which governs what I choose to accept and disregard.

I can in all honesty say that nothing anyone has written on here causes me to feel insulted - but can you truely say the same for yourself? If we allow ourselves to be dragged down to petty name calling - as I am shamed to say you have in your posts and messages to me - I'd suggest you cannot wholehardly be as exempt from taking some of the posts and messages as personally as you claim.

The part I asked for clarification on - your chioce of words "You're still looking for the daddy or mommy you never had" - I wanted to ensure there was no more reason behind that statement than more petty name calling - because I have personal reasons to find issue with that particular choice of phrase if it had more deep founding meaning behind it. Your subsequent post leads me to believe there is no more meaning behind it and so I wont even let that part bother me.

As to your final statement about reading or book ... or the alternate suggestion - I think instead - I will choice neither - I will hold my head up high - feel good about myself - and if I think more about your statement - only feel sad for you and your narrow minded view.

I will leave a couple of last suggestions for you though - if you find reading forums so insulting why do you read and contribute to them? And - if you suggest I would be better off in life smashing my computer to pieces - and then suggesting your advice is so good - then why aren't you taking your own advice to heart?

Take care

xxx

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