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The curious case of 1200: The Expert's rating

It is amazing how a troll topic like this can live and thrive for more than 3 years.
It is a timeless point of discussion.
Any chess player on chess.com that is over 1200 is certainly better than a novice. I'd guess them to be a legitimate low 1400. A beginning C level talent. On Lichess a 1200 is probably an 800-900 IMO

Any chess player on chess.com that is over 1200 is certainly better than a novice. I'd guess them to be a legitimate low 1400. A beginning C level talent. On Lichess a 1200 is probably an 800-900 IMO
Lichess ratings are inflated by 200 to 400 points

The 1200 hump, as it is commonly referred to in Chess, is the sport's greatest obstacle.
Achieving this rating is the equivalent of graduating from an Ivy league School. No, it does not yet mean that you have mastered this pastime of intuition and pattern recognition. It does on the other hand suggest that you are well on your way to achieve such accomplishments.
In other words by attaining the rating of 1200, you can claim the title of being a Chess expert, and deservedly so. The mark of 1200 separates the casuals from the serious. It is the dividing line between the average and the exemplary.
I write this today because I want to address Chess.com's peculiar approach to rating new users. Many of you know that upon opening a Chess.com account, one is immediately gifted the rating of 1200. This means that every new user is recognized as an expert. Of course most of these users end up going below the 1200 mark and lose the title almost immediately, after all they are beginners and not used to such high level Chess. Does anybody know why Chess.com has chosen 1200 as a starting point? After all it's not just an arbitrary number.
STOP!! Reaching 1200 is good but no big deal, A 1200 can never say himself an expert...

The 1200 hump, as it is commonly referred to in Chess, is the sport's greatest obstacle.
Achieving this rating is the equivalent of graduating from an Ivy league School. No, it does not yet mean that you have mastered this pastime of intuition and pattern recognition. It does on the other hand suggest that you are well on your way to achieve such accomplishments.
In other words by attaining the rating of 1200, you can claim the title of being a Chess expert, and deservedly so. The mark of 1200 separates the casuals from the serious. It is the dividing line between the average and the exemplary.
I write this today because I want to address Chess.com's peculiar approach to rating new users. Many of you know that upon opening a Chess.com account, one is immediately gifted the rating of 1200. This means that every new user is recognized as an expert. Of course most of these users end up going below the 1200 mark and lose the title almost immediately, after all they are beginners and not used to such high level Chess. Does anybody know why Chess.com has chosen 1200 as a starting point? After all it's not just an arbitrary number.
STOP!! Reaching 1200 is good but no big deal, A 1200 can never say himself an expert...
lol dont be so rude dude....let him be happy with what he got.

Dude, someone cannot call himself an expert, especially when he is "JUST" 1200.
Yeah that's also true....its funny how they call themselves expert

Any chess player on chess.com that is over 1200 is certainly better than a novice. I'd guess them to be a legitimate low 1400. A beginning C level talent. On Lichess a 1200 is probably an 800-900 IMO
Lichess ratings are inflated by 200 to 400 points
Yeah
when you get to 2000+ it's not inflated anymore tho

Any chess player on chess.com that is over 1200 is certainly better than a novice. I'd guess them to be a legitimate low 1400. A beginning C level talent. On Lichess a 1200 is probably an 800-900 IMO
Lichess ratings are inflated by 200 to 400 points
Yeah
when you get to 2000+ it's not inflated anymore tho
Me is 1900 der, and just 1600 here

I just reached 1200. Now what? Can I get recognized in some special chess category now?
You are about to get HUMPED
Thanks, Socialist Egypt; it looks like I'll have my work cut out for me.
1200 is really easy to get man. anyone who knows the ruless of chess can get a 1200 rating by simply playing tons of games without any deep anylasis or opening knowledge. 1500 is the first big hump in my opinion, and anything beyond 1900 requires study and commitment.
Alttay, how many people will play a ton of games?
If you get to 1200 then you can beat well over half the adults in the world.
nils if you're a big chess junkie then youre gonna be beating normal people no matter what. im just saying its easy because you dont have to put forth much effort besides just playing normally
I stay around 1200 in rapid and I suck. And the chess community doesn't even recognize players under 1600, they just call anyone under that class C. So I think you over estimate 1200
I absolutely agree.
I overcame 1200 points fast enough.
My main problems began when l achieved 1400 points.... Farher and higher l go with big dufficulties and retreats.
I even stop here now.
I just reached 1200. Now what? Can I get recognized in some special chess category now?
You are about to get HUMPED