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nklristic
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
ice_cream_cake wrote:
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
Bro he’s returned! Oh the sequel will be glorious! I hope you’ve learned your lesson and will stop using stockfish from now on. My advice is that you just treat chess as something to enjoy. Don’t get so het up on elo, just play for fun. Then you won’t feel the need to cheat.

Hiiii you're the first one back here i see

Had to see how it continued. Also - he’s already cheating again…

Bro was banned for cheating, given a second chance, and immediately pulls this:

I saw the last topic and didn't want to say anything because everything was clear. Here however it is not.

Those games are very short, and basically his opponents self destructed. They lose a piece within first 5-10 moves and quickly resign. Accuracy itself can be misleading.

Of course, I can't be certain based on OP's short history here, but if I were to look at it impartially, that is how I would do it.

ice_cream_cake

@DoYouLikeCurry I'm jealous of your last name sad.png I like it much better than mine

ice_cream_cake

You know, one thing I noticed is that there are moments in the two games that OP has won where the moves demonstrate understanding of certain things. If OP can see that checks are forcing moves and spot nice forks, then maybe they have a chance to break out of 400 pretty quickly.

DoYouLikeCurry
I would fully understand that if OP was at our level when not cheating. It can be hard to tell if someone is cheating by a few games as, as I’m sure you know, the rapid difference between cheating and not cheating at higher levels is probably a matter of a few percentage points.

OP, however, is about 400elo max. His opponents self destruct in all of the matches, he just only capitalised on them (with perfect engine accuracy) in two of them. Go and watch his other games and see how quickly pieces get hung in contrast.
DoYouLikeCurry
As in he’s hung a piece in under ten moves in both his most recent games - including his queen in the most recent. That’s not someone who knows how to capitalise on a poor move by an opponent
ice_cream_cake
ice_cream_cake wrote:

You know, one thing I noticed is that there are moments in the two games that OP has won where the moves demonstrate understanding of certain things. If OP can see that checks are forcing moves and spot nice forks, then maybe they have a chance to break out of 400 pretty quickly.

That said, long-term improvement would hinge upon actual enjoyment of learning these concepts and not chasing rating for its own sake

ice_cream_cake
GYG wrote:
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:

Don’t worry I’m not accusing you of cheating haha - your bullet games are impressive man. I’m just genuinely wondering why you haven’t pursued fide titles? If I had your talent I would.

Because it's much more fun being the super strong untitled player rather than some mediocre CM .

Also, my style is really not suited for classical, I play complete garbage that only works in speed chess, I think if I played OTB I would be at least 400 points weaker than online, maybe more.

Out of curiosity, why do you focus so much on speed chess? And why is it more fun? Haha sorry, im quite curious

nklristic
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
I would fully understand that if OP was at our level when not cheating. It can be hard to tell if someone is cheating by a few games as, as I’m sure you know, the rapid difference between cheating and not cheating at higher levels is probably a matter of a few percentage points.
OP, however, is about 400elo max. His opponents self destruct in all of the matches, he just only capitalised on them (with perfect engine accuracy) in two of them. Go and watch his other games and see how quickly pieces get hung in contrast.

It is far from a perfect level accuracy. That is the thing with accuracy on chess.com. It has changed a year or 2 ago in a way to give false readings for lower rated players. Basically if you play the same game he did, your accuracy would be 80 and something. That is how caps 2 works. It takes your rating into account to kind of encourage weaker players.

Just look at this graph before and now:

And when I say they self destructed, I mean they left piece hanging fast and it was easy for him to win because they just resigned in 10 moves after a lost piece.
Look for instance one of these 2:

9 move game, and almost half of his moves were forced after his opponent torpedoed his pieces. Of course, as I said, I can't say for sure, but let's not rush with accusations. I get that he brought it upon himself because of the first account, and somewhat arrogant behavior, but let's wait a bit before we draw conclusions for this account.

DoYouLikeCurry
@njlristic I’m sorry man but the only two wins he’s got being both over 90% is very sus. It’d be sus enough for a normal 400 but seeing as this guy was banned YESTERDAY for the same offence…

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, as shown by my first post on this thread, but then I decided to check out his games and the difference is just day and night honestly. Also, it’s fairly telling that those wins came JUST as he was about to dip below 400…
GYG
ice_cream_cake wrote:

Out of curiosity, why do you focus so much on speed chess? And why is it more fun? Haha sorry, im quite curious

I like to play for cheap tricks. I also like gambits and other dubious openings, and I love swindling and flagging people from losing positions. All of these things thrive in blitz and bullet. It's just what I'm best at and what I enjoy the most.

Classical and rapid are nowhere near as interesting to me, which is convenient, since at my rating, if I wanted to play long time controls online I'd probably be playing against an engine in every second game.

ice_cream_cake
GYG wrote:
ice_cream_cake wrote:

Out of curiosity, why do you focus so much on speed chess? And why is it more fun? Haha sorry, im quite curious

I like to play for cheap tricks. I also like gambits and other dubious openings, and I love swindling and flagging people from losing positions. All of these things thrive in blitz and bullet. It's just what I'm best at and what I enjoy the most.

Classical and rapid are nowhere near as interesting to me, which is convenient, since if I wanted to play long time controls online I'd probably be playing against an engine in every second game.

LOL nice
I'd heard of people like you, but I guess I didn't fully realize that they existed....that's awesome.

DoYouLikeCurry
GYG wrote:
ice_cream_cake wrote:

Out of curiosity, why do you focus so much on speed chess? And why is it more fun? Haha sorry, im quite curious

I like to play for cheap tricks. I also like gambits and other dubious openings, and I love swindling and flagging people from losing positions. All of these things thrive in blitz and bullet. It's just what I'm best at and what I enjoy the most.

Classical and rapid are nowhere near as interesting to me, which is convenient, since at my rating, if I wanted to play long time controls online I'd probably be playing against an engine in every second game.

Speaking of - what do you think of OP? He was banned yesterday for cheating and has got a new account. Cheating again?

nklristic
GYG wrote:

If I wanted to play long time controls online I'd probably be playing against an engine in every second game.

That is a common misconception, I for instance only play 60 minutes and 30 minutes per player (had to in order to play some higher rated people).

Engine users don't need that kind of time, they can easily win 5 or more blitz games while I finish 30 minute per side. happy.png

There are some, but less than you would expect.

ice_cream_cake
nklristic wrote:
GYG wrote:

If I wanted to play long time controls online I'd probably be playing against an engine in every second game.

That is a common misconception, I for instance only play 60 minutes and 30 minutes per player (had to in order to play some higher rated people).

Engine users don't need that kind of time, they can easily win 5 or more blitz games while I finish 30 minute per side.

There are some, but less than you would expect.

At GYG's level, I think concern for cheating is WAY more immediate than at yours/mine.

DoYouLikeCurry

Oh also, guys, check out the difference in openings in OP’s losses and wins. In the losses he’s out of theory on about move 1 or 2. In the wins, he suddenly knows how to play the Sicilian defence. What??

nklristic
ice_cream_cake wrote:
nklristic wrote:
GYG wrote:

If I wanted to play long time controls online I'd probably be playing against an engine in every second game.

That is a common misconception, I for instance only play 60 minutes and 30 minutes per player (had to in order to play some higher rated people).

Engine users don't need that kind of time, they can easily win 5 or more blitz games while I finish 30 minute per side.

There are some, but less than you would expect.

At GYG's level, I think concern for cheating is WAY more immediate than at yours/mine.

Sure, but nobody is playing really long games at his level. 10|0 ok, but that can't be called a long game, in FIDE terms, that is actually still blitz.
But even if they did, it wouldn't be worse than blitz at that level, because one can easily cheat in blitz as well as 60|0 game. I would actually say that a cheater would prefer to play blitz because of that.

DoYouLikeCurry

also does anyone know where @nklristic got that graph? Or did he just make it? It was cool

nklristic
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:

also does anyone know where @nklristic got that graph? Or did he just make it? It was cool

https://support.chess.com/article/1135-what-is-accuracy-in-analysis-how-is-it-measured

DoYouLikeCurry
Thanks!
nklristic
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
Thanks!

You're welcome.

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