The Great Reset - Second Chance Account

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DoYouLikeCurry
@ehm42 those are two different people mate. The first one was a 400elo definite chester
DefqonZer0
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
Bro he’s returned! Oh the sequel will be glorious! I hope you’ve learned your lesson and will stop using stockfish from now on. My advice is that you just treat chess as something to enjoy. Don’t get so het up on elo, just play for fun. Then you won’t feel the need to cheat.

I've offered to use Teamviewer multiple times, I'll offer it once more, if you want to take me up on the offer then you'll be able to see the only time I even googled stockfish was to see what it was after you kept saying I was using it lmao. I mean, realistically I could've just opened a 3600 ELO bot game playing the opposing side copying my opponents moves and mirroring what the bot did to guarantee a win, I wouldn't even need to use "stockfish" to achieve this. Not that this is what I was doing, I have a friend who was literally sat on discord basically advising moves, whether or not he used stockfish is unbeknownst to me and you dont have to believe a word I say but its whatever at this point...

DefqonZer0
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
ice_cream_cake wrote:
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
Bro he’s returned! Oh the sequel will be glorious! I hope you’ve learned your lesson and will stop using stockfish from now on. My advice is that you just treat chess as something to enjoy. Don’t get so het up on elo, just play for fun. Then you won’t feel the need to cheat.

Hiiii you're the first one back here i see

Had to see how it continued. Also - he’s already cheating again…

Bro was banned for cheating, given a second chance, and immediately pulls this:

Those games were both resignations, I barely had a chance to make moves, and the second game I never even noticed I had an advantage and was going to resign myself however they did it before I could. My ELO is consistently going down and I never even played those games to completion but because of I had a high accuracy opener I'm instantly cheating...
Question for you and the rest of the idiots here. You ever had a game where you can see exactly what you need to do? Ever had a game right after where you get licked up bad? Ever got a bad beat in poker? I was actually copying a strategy I learned from a youtube video in both of those games hence why I open in the same way. Without watching the replay I'm certain one of them resigned after I took his queen, which I've noticed is normal at low ELO so I don't even bother trying to capture the king anymore.

DefqonZer0
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
Yep but I’ve gotten wise to him. He somehow thinks the anti cheating algorithm will be fooled if he plays a load of non cheating games after cheating.
The quality difference of these games is immense. ALSO if we needed more proof he’s a liar - he says he’s learned openings from YouTube, but, curiously, in the games he loses he doesn’t play opening theory! Incredible

What would be the point of me winning 2 games I never even knew I was winning, through resignation might I add... Only to consecutively lose like 4 games in a row or whatever? Surely if I was trying to pad stats I'd have more wins than losses and draws and my ELO would be climbing?

DefqonZer0
ice_cream_cake wrote:

The story was obviously full of untruths, but I'm surprised that a player of this person's level knows the term "opening theory". I didn't know that word at 800 even, but maybe that's an effect of the chess boom.

Any turn based game involves making an opening move, also known as an opener. My knowledge of opening a game has nothing to do with chess. The other guy who said "He says he learned openings from youtube but doesn't know opening theory" its because I'm trying to learn opening theory, I'm using youtube in an attempt to do this. I know certain moves to make, I'm just not sure when I should use these moves. I've learned how to pin and skewer. I've learned a few things in the last 48 hours. Theory is theory, it involves a lot of reading and interpretation. You're acting as if I'm winning games against GMs without any mistakes or something...

DefqonZer0
nklristic wrote:
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
ice_cream_cake wrote:
DoYouLikeCurry wrote:
Bro he’s returned! Oh the sequel will be glorious! I hope you’ve learned your lesson and will stop using stockfish from now on. My advice is that you just treat chess as something to enjoy. Don’t get so het up on elo, just play for fun. Then you won’t feel the need to cheat.

Hiiii you're the first one back here i see

Had to see how it continued. Also - he’s already cheating again…

Bro was banned for cheating, given a second chance, and immediately pulls this:

I saw the last topic and didn't want to say anything because everything was clear. Here however it is not.

Those games are very short, and basically his opponents self destructed. They lose a piece within first 5-10 moves and quickly resign. Accuracy itself can be misleading.

Of course, I can't be certain based on OP's short history here, but if I were to look at it impartially, that is how I would do it.

THIS! Literally, I was told "In low ELO games, if you take their queen they mostly resign" which is what happened in one of those 2 wins... Glad somebody noticed it. I also made many mistakes in those few moves.

SoupSailor
You’ve cheated in two games, but have been playing fairly since. Keep it up.
SoupSailor
Another way to spot an engine cheater it to examine the time usage. Compare the time usage in the games that he won with the games that he lost, and the difference is clear.
DefqonZer0
SoupSailor72 wrote:
Another way to spot an engine cheater it to examine the time usage. Compare the time usage in the games that he won with the games that he lost, and the difference is clear.

I doubt you can say the time difference is clear, I average between 5-25 seconds between each move regardless of who I'm playing against, win or lose. Because I had 2 good accuracy resignation wins I must be cheating right? Just because the other low ELO players literally fed me pieces and resigned after losing their queen because they haven't got the cajones to play without one, I'm a cheater? 
Realistically I play until I win or notice I've made a massive mistake that's gonna cost me the game and in turn I resign... could be a handful of moves after the mistake before I even notice it, could be immediate as I've got a habit of accidentally sacking my queen early. I've noticed my habit of leaving pawns out with no defence. I've noticed I miss obvious skewers all the time, I've noticed I miss obvious pins all the time. Take my last game as an example, if I didn't notice right at the end that I'd be better off promoting pawns instead of protecting my king, I wouldn't have won. Unlike the other noobs, I don't resign to a lost queen, I keep playing until I win or lose. I've won 1 by checkmate and 2 by resignation and you claim I cheated on the resignation wins, lmao I was gonna resign one of them myself because I didn't even know I was winning.
I've mostly stopped attacking the king anyways and try to keep my focus on the queen because like I said, most people resign at low ELO when you take their queen, its like they don't realize they have other valuable pieces on the board.

DefqonZer0

Prime example of elevating my play by the second, I've figured out if I'm black side and they push the pawn out infront of their king, I can just play Alkehines Defence or whatever its says on the top right when I push my knight out and if they're dumb enough they'll straight up sack their queen to my knight. 
That being said, I've figured out the white and black bars on the right side of my screen are actually a timer and not a % grade of how effective my moves are, this is what I was using initially to gauge whether or not I was playing okay, but realistically using that metric I may aswell be sat at my screen with a blindfold on because its not the info I thought it was. Which is cool btw, because I couldn't figure out why I had 90% accuracy in those 2 resignation wins. I've since consulted Chat GPT that told me I opened extremely well... my first move is usually a random choice unless I'm black side. The only way I can learn is making a random white side opening move and adapting the rest of my pieces to support it. Barely understand pawn structure. 
 
Compare my losses from yesterday to my losses today, you'll see improved theory across the board but I still make rookie errors. If the odd high accuracy game makes me a cheater then this whole community is straight up deluded.

DefqonZer0

That being said, I know about En Passant and its power, I have yet to notice anywhere I could've utilized it, but I bet someone is going to point out about 10 instances I could've forced a win with it or something.

ice_cream_cake

A lot of text, not wanting to read all of this...My honest advice to OP. Just move on. This isn't time and energy worth spending for you. Stop worrying about what others think and just play chess honestly, asking for help if you need it; if you do that I believe there are people who are willing to move on from your past and act in a friendly manner towards you. ( There are always trolls online, but ignore them.)

DoYouLikeCurry

Yeah bro we honestly don’t care that much cos you’re never gonna play us unless you cheat an AWFUL lot. But we find it funny that you posted about your insanely High IQ and then got banned for cheating immediately. Because we were right. I’ve been a chess club admin for a long time, and part of my job is ensuring there aren’t cheats in my club. I know what to look for, and you were one of the most obvious cases I have ever seen. Keep denying it all you want, if you keep cheating, your new account will be banned as well. If you stop cheating, I really hope you enjoy your time on chess.com and improve.

ice_cream_cake

If you invest in it, you can make significant progress in chess. As far as I know, people who care a lot make progress, most of the time. It's slow, but very interesting. Even at my level that isn't so high, I can tell you that if you're a person who likes logical thinking, it's awesome.

DefqonZer0

I haven't violated Fair Play or done a lick of cheating on this account but cry more I guess.

ice_cream_cake

Okay....I really don't want to sound rude, but I'm afraid that I feel that these comments seem to show an ego issue....as has been said multiple times, no one cares that much....only you.

DefqonZer0
ice_cream_cake wrote:

Okay....I really don't want to sound rude, but I'm afraid that I feel that these comments seem to show an ego issue....as has been said multiple times, no one cares that much....only you.

Check DM to see why your opinion is wrong.

ice_cream_cake

But tbh, I feel you are currently acting disrespectfully to others by making claims we all know to be false. Again, I'm not talking about YOU, I'm talking about your lack of respect towards OTHER people....seriously, I for one would be happy to interact with you in a friendly manner...but first, I'd need you to get over yourself. Not trying to be rude but you aren't a hotshot in the chess world....you're a normal person, so please, act like one. And in general I'm happy to have normal discussions about chess.

ice_cream_cake

Ok. I did what you asked and checked DM. I concluded you're just an attention seeker, so it would seem I should really just ignore this thread, and stop talking to you.

DefqonZer0

Never acted like a hotshot. Have done nothing but reiterate the fact that I'm inconsistent, new and still actively learning, if saying "I came to conquer" and saying I played chess as a 7 year old is too unbelievable for you then idk what to say. I'm not seeking attention, but every time one of these people who are salty I have a second chance account pops up and is making accusations based on what I did on my old account without realizing this one has lasted way longer, I'm inclined to respond and waste their time. Haven't made any claims you know to be false nor have I contradicted myself, I unknowingly violated fair play on my first account, people keep bringing up stockfish, like I said in DM if the consensus is that stockfish was used, I have to accept it, after all I can prove I've never even opened the website to download the app. If my friend was using stockfish to advise me as I screen shared, then my bad I guess, I don't have enough chess knowledge to say "Those plays are beyond your elo, if I use them I'll get accused of cheating." instead I just took his word and played his moves which I now understand goes directly against the rules I never actually read until my ban. If that DoYouLikeCurry guy wants to be salty and keep calling cheats because he can't fathom the fact that I've been given a second chance by chess.com, that's fine. The website gave me a second chance, I don't need a second chance from him to prove I CAN LEARN HOW TO PLAY CHESS! Emphasis on learn, because I've done nothing but admit I'm an inconsistent beginner... and I've still got people crying at me. Ofcourse I'll drone on and troll because they simply cannot see what I'm doing. I dont want attention, best case scenario everyone stops replying to this so I can focus on playing instead of responding to silly people.

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