The level on Blitz is WAY higher than the ratings

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I had a bit of slump on Blitz and dropped from 1900-1600. I have played a lot of games over the last few days at the 1650-1750 level and the vast majority (well over half) are playing 85%-95% accuracy. It is insane. The chess.com ratings every time are reading estimated 1900 up to estimated 2300. And I play pretty unusual openings.

In order to win I need to play amazingly well, and I still cant get back up to 1700.

Just for comparison, my rapid rating is 2100.

No idea why the ratings are so low and the players so good on Blitz. Bots? A load of geniuses?  I dunno. It is pretty frustrating

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I have heard it said that it "evens out", cos some games both players are sloppy and have 50-60% accuracy and a low estimated rating. While that is true, it only really happens 1 in 8 games. The rest of the time, there is this 80%-95% accuracy, and it continues even over 30-40 moves, under intense time pressure.

And the end game play, damn these guys are good even with seconds left. Better than people rated 2000 on Rapid.

What is going on?

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Also, Blitz players are very rude. They send rude messages in chat or quit/stall

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Your games are over pretty quickly, the earlier it ends the higher the accuracy

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I have started playing blitz and had kinda the opposite affect...you might just be the unlucky guy who gets the good people lol

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J-0K-ER wrote:

I have started playing blitz and had kinda the opposite affect...you might just be the unlucky guy who gets the good people lol

You better believe it. A lot of games I just laugh and say, "well played" after the destroy for making on tiny inaccuracy. I always check the analysis and most of the time, yep, they put in 1950 or as high as 2300 level play over many many moves. So fast as well, I hardly ever seem to get people who time out

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

Your games are over pretty quickly, the earlier it ends the higher the accuracy

yeah, but Blitz. How many moves can you play in 5 mins? And if we are both playing really fast, you would expect the errors to increase

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ChrisZifo wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

Your games are over pretty quickly, the earlier it ends the higher the accuracy

yeah, but Blitz. How many moves can you play in 5 mins? And if we are both playing really fast, you would expect the errors to increase

That is exactly what I would think as well...with more time on the clock people usually always play better

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J-0K-ER wrote:
ChrisZifo wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

Your games are over pretty quickly, the earlier it ends the higher the accuracy

yeah, but Blitz. How many moves can you play in 5 mins? And if we are both playing really fast, you would expect the errors to increase

That is exactly what I would think as well...with more time on the clock people usually always play better

My guess. there are many more good players playing Blitz, possibly because they prefer it or because they have less time? So that might be why. Still strange.

Just played another game. I won, but had to play 91% accuracy in the Benko gambit. Estimated ratings of the 2 players were 2100 and 1800.

Reality? we were both rated 1600-1700

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ChrisZifo wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

Your games are over pretty quickly, the earlier it ends the higher the accuracy

yeah, but Blitz. How many moves can you play in 5 mins? And if we are both playing really fast, you would expect the errors to increase

500 moves? 5 minutes is a long time

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I don't really understand how much better and faster a player is for the same rating compared to Rapid. The difference is huge. I don't even bother playing it because I have heard focusing too much on learning to play fast is a detriment to your overall chess.

I remember playing somebody who only played Blitz and he thrashed me in Blitz but I won in Rapid. Perhaps the skills are very different and they play much simpler and safer chess which makes it easier to avoid mistakes, whereas in Rapid those same moves would be punished but there isn't enough time to calculate the way to punish them in Blitz for many people.

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kippuss wrote:

I don't really understand how much better and faster a player is for the same rating compared to Rapid. The difference is huge.

Seems like about 300-400 pts harder on Blitz (bullet, even harder).

I am 2100 on Rapid, cant even reach 1700 on Blitz today

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Just play what you enjoy most - Blitz is very popular but so is Rapid, perhaps they are truly very different. Personally I'd rather focus on Rapid because you are able to play better quality of chess with more time. (But classic is overkill obviously, even Magnus thinks so).

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Play 3+0 instead of 5+0 it's easier

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

Play 3+0 instead of 5+0 it's easier

why? More blunders?

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i play better in blitz than rapid

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ChrisZifo wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

Play 3+0 instead of 5+0 it's easier

why? More blunders?

Like llama said, the "unusual" time controls are harder for some reason

3+0 is the normal tc for blitz here

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chesssblackbelt wrote:
ChrisZifo wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

Play 3+0 instead of 5+0 it's easier

why? More blunders?

Like llama said, the "unusual" time controls are harder for some reason

3+0 is the normal tc for blitz here

I didn't know that. Maybe lots of bots are put in the 5-0 control.

Anyways, finished the day with 5 games against some guy and won 4-1 so probably best to call it a day and try again after a break

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My opponent in the last 5 games had very bad accuracy-- it is almost like someone read my comments and decided to give me a break

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hi