The Secret of Chess

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RoobieRoo

anyway I just wanted to know how someone thinks of a move like 24.b4, is it pure calculation, intuition? a combination of both.  Pattern recognition? Who can say?

RoobieRoo

White was Alexander Khalifman and black Evgenij Ermenkov, white eventually won. happy.png

RoobieRoo

lol you should become my guru and I your pupil! wink.png

RoobieRoo

you are on coffee and I am drinking milk, at least its full fat milk! happy.png

stewardjandstewardj
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
stewardjandstewardj wrote:

He said that he is the best chess player in the world.

He said that he can fairly tie StockFish.

He even said that he was LITERALLY the gateway to another dimension.

Believe it or not, Lyudmil is lying.

I think you clearly don't know when someone is being sarcastic. To me, it is no different than saying he could God with the white pieces...Bobby Fischer. 

no, I asked him, he was being serious. So if he's sarcastic, he is not making it that apparent to us

E_Luckov

Is he being sarcastic here?

 

"What is so difficult to understand: I am CM officially, but '2600+ strength' factually.

The modern world is full with empty titles and those mostly mean nothing.
For example, most modern literature Nobel Prize winners have actually written extremely mediocre
works, and their contribution to literature is literally=0.

Who needs all that?

I hate empty things. I prefer to be non-titled, but strong, rather than titled and mediocre.

Concerning me posting some games, there are 100+ such posts on talkchess, the last one a handicap game I played against
Stockfish 8, knight for missing c7 pawn, the same handicap that Nakamura quickly lost to Komodo:
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewt...731656&t=65168

Just browse the forum more carefully.

I would have posted here too, but the replay software is not ideal.

Btw., I don't know why should I explain to a person who needs 410 games to score a draw against Stockfish?

I am able to draw every single game."

 

No wonder the "flat Earth community" is so big...

cfour_explosive
E_Luckov wrote:

No wonder the "flat Earth community" is so big...

exactly. this thread is the perfect example of human stupidity in its purest form. If Lyudmil told them that we are living in a computer simulation created by aliens called The Lyudmil's, they probably would believe him and call everyone who questions it ignorants or trolls. Ridiculous... on the one hand it's extremely funny, but also very sad at the same time.

lfPatriotGames
h4_explosive wrote:
E_Luckov wrote:

No wonder the "flat Earth community" is so big...

exactly. this thread is the perfect example of human stupidity in its purest form. If Lyudmil told them that we are living in a computer simulation created by aliens called The Lyudmil's, they probably would believe him.

Is it stupidity or just gullible? The people who believe him might live normal productive lives where intelligence is required. I think it might be they WANT to believe him so much they are willing to put aside normal reasoning. Someone suggested he is just being sarcastic. Maybe the title of his book is just a little sarcasm. Obviously not everyone is going to get his sarcasm. Between the claims of having the secret of chess, 3500 rating, gateway to another dimension, etc. whether its sarcasm or serious, it's to the point where reasonable people will say no thanks to whatever he is offereing.

edilio134

-----> The modern world is full with empty titles and those mostly mean nothing.
For example, most modern literature Nobel Prize winners have actually written extremely mediocre
works, and their contribution to literature is literally=0.

So true.....without sarcasm.

And i don't care less to believe him or not in the chess related thing..i just like him :-)

Yenny-Leon

<sarcasm> How outrageous that LT would use that title for his book!  Any author so arrogant and presumptuous as to include the word "secret" in a chess book title must be delusional, and should be avoided like the plague! </sarcasm>

 

Secrets of Practical Chess by John Nunn

Chess Secrets: The Giants of Strategy by Neil McDonald

Secrets of the Russian Chess Masters by Lev Alburt and Larry Parr

Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy by John Watson

Secrets of Chess Training by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Secrets of Chess Tactics by Mark Dvoretsky and Malcolm Gesthuysen

Secrets of Chess Intuition by Alexander Beliavsky and Adrian Mikhalchishin

Secrets of Chess Endgame Strategy by Lars Bo Hansen

Secrets of Creative Thinking by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Secrets of Chess Training by Mark Dvoretsky

Secrets of Positional Play by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Secrets of Chess Defence by Mihail Marin

Secrets of the Russian Chess Masters by Lev Alburt and Larry Parr

Secrets of Positional Chess by Marovic Drazen

Secrets of Endgame Technique by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Secrets of Pawnless Endings by John Nunn

Chess Secrets I Learned from the Masters by Edward Lasker and Kenneth Stubbs

Secrets of Minor-Piece Endings by John Nunn

Secrets Of The Sicilian Dragon by Eduard Gufeld and Eric Schiller

Secrets Of Chess Transformations by Drazen Marovic

Secrets of Grandmaster Chess by John Nunn

Secrets of Opening Preparation by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Chess Secrets by Raymond Keene

Tactical Chess Endings: Improve Your Chess by Unlocking the Secrets of the Endgame by John Nunn

Grandmaster Secrets: Winning Quickly at Chess by John Nunn

My Secrets in the Ruy Lopez by Lajos Portisch

All You Need To Know About Chess Game: A Simplified Guide On The Secrets Tricks & Strategies by Brown McCarthy

The Secret of Tactical Chess by Fred Reinfeld

Secrets of Pawn Endings by Karsten Müller and Frank Lamprecht

Secrets of Spectacular Chess by Jonathan Levitt and David Friedgood

Wesley So: My Black Secrets in the Modern Italian Chess Opening Software by ChessBase

Bobby, Bruce & the Bronx: The Secrets of Hip-Hop Chess by Adisa the Bishop

Secret to Chess by Viva Media

Grandmaster Secrets: Counter-Attack! by Zenon Franco

Chess Secrets Revealed by Fred Reinfeld

Secrets of Spectacular Chess by Jonathan Levitt and David Friedgood

Master Method: Judit Polgar's Sicilian Secrets

Secret Notes by David Bronstein and Sergey Voronkov

Secrets of Rook Endings by John Nunn

Chess Secrets I Learned From the Masters by Edward Lasker

Secrets of Opening Surprises - Volume 6 by Jeroen Bosch

The Secret Life of Bad Bishops by Esben Lund

The Secret to Chess by Maurice Ashley

How to Win in the Chess Openings: A Noted Champion Reveals the Secrets of Seizing and Holding the Initiative by I.A. Horowitz

Endgame Secrets: How to Plan in the Endgame in Chess by Christopher Lutz

Grandmaster Secrets Endings by Andrew Soltis

Secrets of a Grandpatzer: How to Beat Most People and Computers at Chess by Kenneth Mark Colby and Michael R. Stewart

Grandmaster Secrets: Openings by Andrew Soltis and Rob Long

Wesley So: My Secret Weapon: 1.b3 (Nimzo-Larsen) by ChessBase

Secrets from Russia - Chess Theory and Analysis by Anatoly Karpov

Secrets of Chess Unleashed by Praneetha Patnaik

The Secret of the Pawns by Patrick C Stoddard

Tal's Winning Chess Combinations: The Secrets of Winning Chess Combinations Described and Explained by Mikhail Tal and Victor Khenkin

cfour_explosive

nice straw man argument,  how long did it take you to come up with it?

stewardjandstewardj
lfPatriotGames wrote:
h4_explosive wrote:
E_Luckov wrote:

No wonder the "flat Earth community" is so big...

exactly. this thread is the perfect example of human stupidity in its purest form. If Lyudmil told them that we are living in a computer simulation created by aliens called The Lyudmil's, they probably would believe him.

Is it stupidity or just gullible? The people who believe him might live normal productive lives where intelligence is required. I think it might be they WANT to believe him so much they are willing to put aside normal reasoning. Someone suggested he is just being sarcastic. Maybe the title of his book is just a little sarcasm. Obviously not everyone is going to get his sarcasm. Between the claims of having the secret of chess, 3500 rating, gateway to another dimension, etc. whether its sarcasm or serious, it's to the point where reasonable people will say no thanks to whatever he is offereing.

Those that believe him when first joining the forum are gullible.

Those who still believe him after a week are additionally stupid.

stewardjandstewardj
Yenny-Leon wrote:

<sarcasm> How outrageous that LT would use that title for his book!  Any author so arrogant and presumptuous as to include the word "secret" in a chess book title must be delusional, and should be avoided like the plague! </sarcasm>

 

Secrets of Practical Chess by John Nunn

Chess Secrets: The Giants of Strategy by Neil McDonald

Secrets of the Russian Chess Masters by Lev Alburt and Larry Parr

Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy by John Watson

Secrets of Chess Training by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Secrets of Chess Tactics by Mark Dvoretsky and Malcolm Gesthuysen

Secrets of Chess Intuition by Alexander Beliavsky and Adrian Mikhalchishin

Secrets of Chess Endgame Strategy by Lars Bo Hansen

Secrets of Creative Thinking by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Secrets of Chess Training by Mark Dvoretsky

Secrets of Positional Play by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Secrets of Chess Defence by Mihail Marin

Secrets of the Russian Chess Masters by Lev Alburt and Larry Parr

Secrets of Positional Chess by Marovic Drazen

Secrets of Endgame Technique by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Secrets of Pawnless Endings by John Nunn

Chess Secrets I Learned from the Masters by Edward Lasker and Kenneth Stubbs

Secrets of Minor-Piece Endings by John Nunn

Secrets Of The Sicilian Dragon by Eduard Gufeld and Eric Schiller

Secrets Of Chess Transformations by Drazen Marovic

Secrets of Grandmaster Chess by John Nunn

Secrets of Opening Preparation by Mark Dvoretsky and Artur Yusupov

Chess Secrets by Raymond Keene

Tactical Chess Endings: Improve Your Chess by Unlocking the Secrets of the Endgame by John Nunn

Grandmaster Secrets: Winning Quickly at Chess by John Nunn

My Secrets in the Ruy Lopez by Lajos Portisch

All You Need To Know About Chess Game: A Simplified Guide On The Secrets Tricks & Strategies by Brown McCarthy

The Secret of Tactical Chess by Fred Reinfeld

Secrets of Pawn Endings by Karsten Müller and Frank Lamprecht

Secrets of Spectacular Chess by Jonathan Levitt and David Friedgood

Wesley So: My Black Secrets in the Modern Italian Chess Opening Software by ChessBase

Bobby, Bruce & the Bronx: The Secrets of Hip-Hop Chess by Adisa the Bishop

Secret to Chess by Viva Media

Grandmaster Secrets: Counter-Attack! by Zenon Franco

Chess Secrets Revealed by Fred Reinfeld

Secrets of Spectacular Chess by Jonathan Levitt and David Friedgood

Master Method: Judit Polgar's Sicilian Secrets

Secret Notes by David Bronstein and Sergey Voronkov

Secrets of Rook Endings by John Nunn

Chess Secrets I Learned From the Masters by Edward Lasker

Secrets of Opening Surprises - Volume 6 by Jeroen Bosch

The Secret Life of Bad Bishops by Esben Lund

The Secret to Chess by Maurice Ashley

How to Win in the Chess Openings: A Noted Champion Reveals the Secrets of Seizing and Holding the Initiative by I.A. Horowitz

Endgame Secrets: How to Plan in the Endgame in Chess by Christopher Lutz

Grandmaster Secrets Endings by Andrew Soltis

Secrets of a Grandpatzer: How to Beat Most People and Computers at Chess by Kenneth Mark Colby and Michael R. Stewart

Grandmaster Secrets: Openings by Andrew Soltis and Rob Long

Wesley So: My Secret Weapon: 1.b3 (Nimzo-Larsen) by ChessBase

Secrets from Russia - Chess Theory and Analysis by Anatoly Karpov

Secrets of Chess Unleashed by Praneetha Patnaik

The Secret of the Pawns by Patrick C Stoddard

Tal's Winning Chess Combinations: The Secrets of Winning Chess Combinations Described and Explained by Mikhail Tal and Victor Khenkin

In today's world, we see plenty of phrases in titles of books and social media posts such as "Change you life", "secret", "must know", "must read", "If ____, then read this", etc. this is simply to catch the person's attention, and I find it quite annoying when people do this, then I read/watch it and it's not nearly as good as it sounded. However, Lyudmil is just one in the crowd to be doing this, and he shouldn't be accused of doing this. However, he should be accused of all of the farfetched claims he have posted.

edilio134

a-Those that believe him when first joining the forum are gullible.

b-Those who still believe him after a week are additionally stupid.

c -However, he should be accused of all of the farfetched claims he have posted.

believe or not believe he's the same poster....

Yenny-Leon
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Between the claims of having the secret of chess, .... it's to the point where reasonable people will say no thanks to whatever he is offereing.

 You guys might be taking yourselves a bit too seriously.

E_Luckov

What's the point of that book list? Are you trying to prove something? Let me see... just one name: John Nunn... sorry, if you can't see the diffrence between John Nunn and LT, there is nothing to discuss.

As far as I know NONE from that list was a person that came out of nowhere claiming to be the best player ever... or refused to play because of "noises", or "cheaters" or "planets alignements".

For sure, this is fair beyond just naivety...

 

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:

Nothing is wrong or untrue about my claims.

I just suffer from lack of concentration, I hear noises everywhere.

but then, those are real ones, the contemporary world is too noisy, that is it, and made even noisier by expanding machinery.

 

There is nothing untrue about your claim that you are an oracle or a gateway to another dimension? There is nothing untrue about your claim that you are 3500 playing strength? 

Is it possible that no matter how much you concentrate, you will still hear noises everywhere? Is it possible that your belief in what you say is caused by how much you feel you can concentrate?

The more you think, the more you need concentration.

Your thought gets saturated and everything distracts you.

The less you think, the less you get distracted.

Animals almost never get distracted.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
e4_guy wrote:

 Is there any chance for white to convert material and win this position ?

.

This is my recent daily game, where both me and my opponent agreed that white can't advance as long as black bishop is on e5 square.

Interesting position.

No time to check this now, but I guess chances are 70-30 white wins after a very very long struggle.

White should play d4, get the king to c4, push b4 next, after that try to penetrate with king and rook.

Any black passers are easily held by the rook and white should aim at zugzwang to win another pawn and try converting.

The rule is rooks are MUCH stronger than bishops in the endgame, so white chances are very good, but, on the other hand, few material on the board and kind of a fortress position.

You need 50-60 moves to be certain how it ends.

Maybe it is a draw after all, but again, I guess chances are 70-30 white wins.

 

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
Yenny-Leon wrote:

@hitthepin, the book is not just tabulations of numbers.  There are tables of numbers, but these are intended as evidence to support pattern-recognition, which can be summarized in verbal "rules of thumb" (including new ones not articulated by anyone before).  You can ignore the data tables if they don't interest you -- they're intended for programmers to use in tweaking their chess engines, not for rote memorization.

Not at all: they are intended for EVERYONE to have a precise grasp of chess evaluation.

That is what evryone misses, including GMs like Smerdon, to a large extent.

Numerical values in tables are EXTREMELY important.

70% of the chess knowledge in the book is hidden there, but NO ONE knows this, apart from me.

For example, let's take 2 pawns: blocked pawns and backward pawns.

There is a table for blocked pawns.

No one looks at it.

But, in that table, the d6 and e6 squares have very big values, 50cps or so, in the middlegame.

This means, whenever you have a blocked pawn on d6/e6 in the mg, the positions is certainly won or this gives you very nice compensation.

Half a pawn, with other factors being equal, is winning score in the mg.

Similarly with backward pawns.

Everyone knows about the IQP, isolated queen's pawn, whole books are written on it, but NO ONE knows and mentions the BQP, backward queen's pawn, a backward pawn on d6(e6 will be similar on the other flank) in the mg.

This feature is again due very big penalty.

Half a pawn or so.

So, again, once you have this element, this could win you the game.

Similar structures arise, for example, from the Sicilian Sveshnikov, which is almost lost for black.

All this knowledge is hidden in the PSQT table for backward pawn, and much more.

But again, it is only me who knows that.

My knowledge has been verified in endless games.

If I could fully explain myself with examples, everyone would be left stupefied, but unfortunately, I don't have the time.

If people study the book very very carefully, checking each and every number, they could benefit a lot.

 

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
stewardjandstewardj wrote:
Lyudmil_Tsvetkov wrote:
Christopher_Parsons wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:

What is there to attack? We are human we do not think like computers.

Actually computers think like some humans. After all, it was humans who taught them how to think. We all don't think like a GM either. That doesn't mean we can't examine how the computer or the GM was taught how to think and apply it to our own thoughts. This is partially what Lyudmil's book is expressing. 

Actually, do you think people in the Middle Ages thought the way we think?

Saw the world in the same way?

Experienced and felt the same?

Of course, NOT, there is a HUGE mental superstructure built in the last 5 or 6 centuries in the human perception.

The man of the Middle Ages thought more with his senses rather than his brain.

We are slowly turning the trend, due to a large amount of formal and informal instruction.

We are more and more mental, computerised, and less so senses-based.

Like it or not.

This might not be immediately evident, but the trend is obvious.

At some point, the average human will be closer to a mental being, computerised system, than a senses-based one.

Of course, some people still live in the Middle Ages.

We think more logically than previous generations in the Middle Ages. You are definitely right about that. Gravity wasn't discovered until Newton, but now they teach about it in elementary school. We could not even calculate over 7 digits of pi in the Middle Ages, but now not only have we calculated trillions of digits, but we have people that memorized over 100,000 digits of it. There is much less racism, cruel & unjust government, and wars as back then. The Middle Ages was much more barbaric than now. Our technology has advanced more in the past century than all of the rest of history.

We have advanced our minds, society, and technology more than imagined, and will keep continuing to do so. In 100 years, throwing away recyclable items in the garbage might be illegal. Maybe the society will become vegetarians, and those who eat meat will be considered barbaric. Maybe humans will control the weather. Maybe there will be no wars. The possibilities are not reachable to our minds, in which was born in this society. Our ability to comprehend what is right and wrong, our life, and our advancement in knowledge is, in many ways, limited to when we were born on this Earth.

But that's not all we are limited by. We are limited by the human brain. And when we make computers that are limited by millions of positions per second, we will never beat the computers with our puny brain that can calculate less than 2 per second. Our ability to reason may help against a computer, but it's just impossible to even come CLOSE to matching a state-of-the-art chess computer. Hundreds of years from now, we will still not be able to catch up to these computers without using computers ourselves. The pure human brain will never catch up to computers, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Now that I'm done ranting, is there something you would like to say about how it's possible for any being that can calculate less than 2 positions per second end up drawing a computer that can calculate millions of positions a second?

Humans were lucky apes found the trees in prehistoric times.

If it had not been for the trees, who sheltered apes and gave them more time to think, they would not have evolved into humans and started ruling the planet.

So, this was a chance event.

If lions had taken to the trees, they would have dominated by now instead.

HUGE the difference is between animals and thinking apes/humans.

HUGE will the difference also be between present time humans and ethereal beings of the future who will think much more than they do nowadays.

2 worlds apart.