Eniamar wrote:
But are you a student tutor who got an "A" in the class, or did you get the "C"?
An "A" in the aspects I would be teaching.
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If you want to teach players bad habits go right ahead maybe you'll fools some, lol strong D player.
Is this a serious thread or are we all missing some deep irony? Given that ratings tend to be inflated on here, when a 1391 offers to give lessons.....where do I sign up?
I think that it depends, if you have experience of teaching anything, then you would have an advantage with chess, also do you have a very good and versatile understanding of the basic principles?
A class player getting $35. an hour ?! I need to return to teaching I guess !! 
That rate does seem quite high, I have seen IMs charge just $20 an hour and some a lot less.
Here_Is_Plenty wrote:
Is this a serious thread or are we all missing some deep irony? Given that ratings tend to be inflated on here, when a 1391 offers to give lessons.....where do I sign up?
Actually, my standard rating isn't really reprensentative, as last night was my first game in many months. I could fairly easily work that up to 1500.
SoilentGreen wrote:
I actually think A players who only get $15 are being underpaid, especially those who live in areas with a high cost of living. A lot of these guys have been studying and working hard for decades
..Really..? Class A players are very weak. Myself I only just moved past the class A level, perhaps I'm at the top tier of Class A players, and I've been studying for under 2 years. We still drop pieces, have no concrete plans in most games, have no clue what to calculate, and no ability to evaluate endgames accurately in the middlegame.
cofail wrote:
I think that it depends, if you have experience of teaching anything, then you would have an advantage with chess, also do you have a very good and versatile understanding of the basic principles?
I'm all the time helping out less experienced players in my club and I have an excellent understanding of basic principles. All the A/B/Expert players in the club have told me I have no problem with them, and they're helping me with more advanced studies.
This thread seems to have turned into a debate on my ability to teach basic theory (which the experiencend players who actually know me do not question) when it was intended to be about what rate I should charge. I somewhat regret posting this thread, because it seems like I get less helpful replies than snide little quips from people who think they're being cute. I wonder if these peope are that obnoxious in person. I can't imagine people like that having too many friends.
I've heard GMs comment that to be strong enough to coach the fundamentals a player should be rated at least 2400.
While I think that's a laughable notion, on a related note I advise not to take your club-mate's word on things as gospel truth, even if they happen to be rated higher than you.
No doubt you can teach the principals, but it would involve just a few lessons right? Basic mates and tactics, develop your pieces, look out for checkmate... stuff like that.
I also have to laugh at the notion that class A players are very good. I don't think they would be able to charge any fee. Their games are still won and lost due to fundamentals.
waffllemaster wrote:
No doubt you can teach the principals, but it would involve just a few lessons right? Basic mates and tactics, develop your pieces, look out for checkmate... stuff like that.
That's exactly what I intended. I'm under no illusion that I"m going to be this sensei with devotees that are with me for years.
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ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
Why not try it. There's no law which says that you can't charge more than a 2200 NM, or the same as an A player.
Quite true. Each case is personal. One may be a friend of a sheikh, have A-grade and boast being paid $1000 per hour. Another guy may be an unenterprising GM from a poor country and earn less than $50.
However, if we take the regular market (i.e. not unique cases, but the prevailing majority of people), most students reasonably want a titled coach both because it is a partial guarantee of his/her qualification, and a good thing to boast about to friends (e.g. "my coach won the US Championship!"). 
Also, at C-level one can't teach much apart from how the pieces move. Maybe some very-very basic tactics, but it's much easier to read a book than have someone show you what a smothered mate is.
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Boring304 wrote:
I am an A class (well it works differently here, but with the same idea) and I only make ~10$ an hour teaching. While my first trainer is also a class A player and he takes ~30$ an hour. Teaching is not only a factor of your playing strenght. a lot of experience and knowledge is required for teaching, not only in chess but also in teaching.
Wise words.
Natalia_Pogonina wrote:
Quite true. Each case is personal. One may be a friend of a sheikh, have A-grade and boast being paid $1000 per hour. Another guy may be an unenterprising GM from a poor country and earn less than $50.
However, if we take the regular market (i.e. not unique cases, but the prevailing majority of people), most students reasonably want a titled coach both because it is a partial guarantee of his/her qualification, and a good thing to boast about to friends (e.g. "my coach won the US Championship!"). Also, at C-level one can't teach much apart from how the pieces move. Maybe some very-very basic tactics, but it's much easier to read a book than have someone show you what a smothered mate is.
I think this sums it up nicely. In my mind, a coach who is at class level is someone who plays games with a weaker player and they can analyse afterward. It's not so much a student-teacher relationship as a collaborative effort. The higher rated player can learn too as they will be making many mistakes too. Sure there are some wise words you can give them, but there's no wealth of information to dish out, just some principals the other guy knows through experience.
Not that I'm some wise guru who could do better. I know my games don't involve any refined techniques, just using the basics as best I can, and trying to analyse during a game well enough to not drop material :)
I wouldn't trust a D player to not screw up his student/victim with some bad information that the student would just have to recognize and unlearn at a later date.
If he could keep it to setting up the pieces lessons and basic principles and the simplest endings, then the D player teacher might be useful.
Of course, who needs a teacher for such simple stuff when a few Heisman Nooks are free and available and soooo much better.