Third term for President Obama?

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johnmusacha

Third term brah.  Once we get into another prolonged ground war...

It'll be like an FDR redux.

OLDJB

Liberalisim is a form of mental illness.

bobbymac310

No chance. Hope it's Condi Rice in 2016.

AlCzervik
johnmusacha wrote:

Third term brah.  Once we get into another prolonged ground war...

It'll be like an FDR redux.

Idiot remark.

AlCzervik
OLDJB wrote:

Liberalisim is a form of mental illness.

Another...

AlCzervik
BishopTARDIS wrote:

Actually I don't know why she'd want to be President at this point. She's making a fortune on the speaking circuit. President Obama himself (and Michelle) probably already have $20 million worth of speaking engagements lined up for when they leave the White House.

Ego is why. Being POTUS is clout, and, she would be the first woman.

JamieDelarosa

About 20 years ago, George Will wrote a book entitled, "Restoration: Congress, Term Limits, and the Recovery of Deliberative Democracy."  It is the single best discussion on the subject I have ever read.

Firstplay

They all lie, and you can tell when they're doing it cos their lips move. The world over, Presidents and elected leaders are first and foremost chosen by the people they really represent. As they're all funded by major corporations then that's who they represent. 

It doesn't matter who you vote for, the Govt still gets in.  They all have identical ideology so elections really have become a beauty contest.  Only in the US would Obama be considered a Left winger, maybe like comparing Thatcher with Pinochet; Thatcher was slightly to the Left of the murderer.  Pinochet funded and supported by the West, especially the CIA, though Thatcher was quoted as saying she admired Pinochets attitude towards trade unionists.  He murdered tens of thousands of people whose only crime was to believe in democracy, just like Hitler did.

 Obama's foreign policy is a continuation of Bush's, a continuation of Clinton and all others who preseded him.  The US is run like a business ('the business of America is business') and the concerns of ordinary people mean nothing.  Much the same as it is everywhere else.

johnmusacha
Firstplay wrote:

They all lie, and you can tell when they're doing it cos their lips move. The world over, Presidents and elected leaders are first and foremost chosen by the people they really represent. As they're all funded by major corporations then that's who they represent. 

It doesn't matter who you vote for, the Govt still gets in.  They all have identical ideology so elections really have become a beauty contest.  Only in the US would Obama be considered a Left winger, maybe like comparing Thatcher with Pinochet; Thatcher was slightly to the Left of the murderer.  Pinochet funded and supported by the West, especially the CIA, though Thatcher was quoted as saying she admired Pinochets attitude towards trade unionists.  He murdered tens of thousands of people whose only crime was to believe in democracy, just like Hitler did.

 Obama's foreign policy is a continuation of Bush's, a continuation of Clinton and all others who preseded him.  The US is run like a business ('the business of America is business') and the concerns of ordinary people mean nothing.  Much the same as it is everywhere else.

Indeed, and even a lot of Democrats and Republicans are starting to wake up and see things like that as well.  You take the "D" off the end of Obama's name and he's not all that different than W. Bush.

Firstplay

Eh? What 'D'? :-)  Meant to say 'preceded', not preseded btw!

OLDJB

Jonathon Gruber told the truth about ONE thing. And that is that liberals who voted for Obooboo are stupid. Stupid as in brainwashed "useful idiots" as Joseph Stalin referred to them!

You take a bunch of dumb wedge issues such as "equal pay, global warming, animal rights," and on and on and on, and next thing you know you have a miseducated populace bent on "change the world" horseshit. The communist organizers stir this crap up and miseducated fools carry the ball for them. This tactic is older than Rome itself.

If Americans don't awaken to this, then I fear we will lose the only thing that distinguishes us from the "turd world." And that would be our unique Constitution and The Bill of Rights.

The "natural" state of humanity is at best master and slave. And at worst complete darkness and total separation from God.

Anyone ever studied the Dark Ages?

Thank God for the U.S.A. and don't think for a singe moment we can't lose this great experiment called liberty!

Firstplay

Wow! Yell So are the communists Liberals or are the Liberals communists? They can't be one and the same.  So all those millions of people who wanted rid of Bush are all stupid?  Maybe there were some good reasons they sought relief from that administration, hoping that Obama may be different.

I read recently that there's about 40 million US citizens of food stamps and the US is about $17 trillion in debt, with $trillions more in liabilities.  If god has been brought into this discussion I'd suggest it starts pulling it's weight and maybe it could provide an answer to the mystery of the $2.3trillion that went missing from the accounts under Bush.  Maybe they'll find it down the back of the settee eh.

It's the same over here.  Most of our politicians talk about a god as though it gives them special privileges or divine rights while they stuff their pockets and fiddle thyeir expenses.  This is despite their religion campaigning against greed. 

Many of the same politicians are millionairs, doing very well from the mess they create.  The number of millionaires increasing proportionately with poverty; many working people having to survive on food banks due to low wages, increasing the margins for the owners of production. 

Millions of Americans have the same conditions as those in the developing world.  The flag that many love that's supposed to represent Liberty clearly doesn't as you're all owned by the people at the top; same as everywhere else.  And you can't eat a flag.

The 'Dark Ages' usually refers to a time where there was no order and people were left to the mercy of the brutal and powerful in society.  It could be argued that we're in another dark age right now as there's no ideological opposition.  The poor are constantly robbed of their labour and resources by the rich and powerful. 'Casino capitalism', some call it. 

  In religious terms 'every man for himself and the devil take the hindmost'. This suggests capitalist anarchy maybe, chaos for the majority and riches for the few.  Take a look at the US debt clock, it can't go on forever, they'll have to start another war while pointing the finger of blame everywhere except themselves.

Firstplay

...and haven't the Patriot Acts more or less replaced the constitution?  Martial Law seems to be replacing democracy in the US. I agree, Americans had better Better wake up and get organised.  As it stands you can vote for tweedle dum or tweedle dee, they'll both behave in exactly the same manner.

Firstplay

Wink

DrinkingLikeTal

Looking at the way this election cycle is headed I think a 3rd term for Obama is possible.

OLDJB

Fuck Obama. 

DrinkingLikeTal

Harsh.

JamieDelarosa
OLDJB wrote:

Fuck Obama. 

Obama's next term will be in a Federal Prison.

DrinkingLikeTal

Jamie, you're a real loony toon.

JamieDelarosa

He can have the cell next to Hillary!