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pololacanne

One of the greatest Chess Champion used to say :

" I don't play to win , I don't play not to lose , I play for the Art and Beauty of Chess ."thumbup.png or thumbdown.png ?

Jecnez

Everyone wants to win. however, if you are a beginner, you can learn a lot from a lost match if you study it.

pololacanne

Vassily SMYSLOV  (CE N'EST PAS lui l'auteur de ma citation d'ailleurs) , pour sa part disait : " Aux échecs je suis un classique , un fervent partisan de la clarté de la pensée.Le contenu d'une partie dit être la recherche de la vérité et la victoire une démonstration de sa correction. Aucune imagination , même féconde, aucune technique , même magistrale , aucune investigation psychologique de l'adversaire , même très profonde , ne peut faire d'une partie d'échecs une œuvre d'art , si ces qualités ne conduisent pas au but principal , la recherche de la vérité. Prises pour elles mêmes , ces qualités ne font que révéler le talent de celui qui les possède et rien de plus. Cette conviction  qui m'a été inculquée depuis l'enfance a aussi prédestiné très tôt mon style de jeu .

VASSILY SMISLOV

pololacanne

I'd emphasize that Vladimir Smislov is 7th on the world champions' list. At the time, in the USSR, ideology controlled everything but chess and pure sciences. 2 plus 2 makes 4, whatever one might think of marxism. Don't forget that the first president of the Russian chess federation (1924), Nikolaï Krylenko, Peoples' Commissar, already organised tournaments (for example in Moscow in 1935), and why? Because are a model of intelligence. What more is there to say?

BudSpencer

2+2 is 9 end off happy.png

pololacanne

OK Bud my friend thumbup.png
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BudSpencer

great photo polo looking well me ol bro happy.png

JPHuber

I play to win, but I'm also terrible, so that's not really a viable option for me. I just enjoy the game, seeing the strategies, and then going back and reading where I inevitably went wrong. It's just such a fascinating game like golf where you can be playing against yourself just as much as you're playing against an opponent.

 

ikasiti

The psychology of human being: want to be perfectionist. By winning chess games like the master, is in common brain set up for all who play chess. The only sport or game which requires skill, practice and determination to win as chess has million ways to play.

To understand this symptom of human being wants to be perfectionist in his endeavor or  undertaking for the a skill in all things, thus we have Leela Zero or Mind Zero, in Chess.

Thats my thought. Thank you.

ikasiti

then if you do not have skill and determination, in this modern what would you do ?

 

ikasiti

learn as a perfectionist: Read:

Bernard Suits on capacities: games, perfectionism, and Utopia

ikasiti

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ikasiti

Ok ghost_of_pushwood,  here is what this guy says, in a summary. That is why we all want to win in all things we play, even love.....

‘Knowledge, pleasure, achievement, loving relationships, and so on are valuable according to perfectionism because they are manifestations of special human features. Having these special features, and manifesting them, according to perfectionism, is having a good life. According to most perfectionist views, these features are certain capacities that are special to human beings. Developing these capacities to the most excellent degree possible is what perfectionism values’ (Bradford 2015Bradford, G. 2015AchievementOxfordOxford University Press.[Crossref], [Google Scholar], 114–115).