today we are Refuting!! the Modern Defense

Controlling center from the flanks and fienchettos.. that is modern defense.. instead of having pawns in the center, some guys do this, some old masters even claim this is better (I won't name and shame them )

anyways.. today we are gonna prove the otherwise 

See?

• Brilliant at opening

• Great at Middlegame

• We didn't even need endgame!!

REFUTED

He played modern opening and even computer marked his opening 'inaccurate' (?!)

and it's just 10 moves.. almost all in the opening.

isn't it enough to prove that opening is refuted? yes it is. think about that.

I did, and and what you are saying is still dumb. The reason being that you aren't considering the alternate moves your opponent could have made that would have made to make it a more even game. For example on move 6 instead of Bg4 black could have played e6 and opted for a hippo set up. which is very hard to deal with without trading down into an endgame.

you are missing the point

if he had played better moves then i'd have had to play worse moves.. to let him equalize.

but he got himself into trouble pretty quick and game already ended in the opening phase actually. missing one accurate move cost the game..

after the bishop sacrifice, moves are kinda forced.. before the sac there are already a few moves.. called modern opening.

No, YOU are missing the point. On move 6 your opponent could have made a different move to prevent the sacrifice for example e6. The game would have continued as normal. You would still be playing a modern defense. How is that a refutation? What you did was punish a bad move, that is not an opening refutation.

It doesn't matter what opening you are playing, it can be the best opening in the world as evaluated by the computer overlords, if you screw up the move order you can already be losing as early as move 6-7.

A good example is the Tal variation of the Caro Kann. If you don't give your developed bishop space it can easily get trapped. Is that a "refutation"? NO, it just means you made a bad move and fell into an opening trap. 

Don't put words in mouth, I never said I was good at chess

Okay, seems like your are good at recognizing refutations.. and saying this is not one.

So, would you show us a refutation?

no links, no tons of mumbo jumbos, put a diagram and tell us..

the masters thank you profusely for saving their honor.

finally, someone got the joke

A refutation is a forced line where, even if both players play the absolute best moves (emphasis on absolute BEST) available in the position, the eventual outcome is a loss for one of the players (this implies both players are playing perfectly like computers; a mistake can still lead to a different result). Good examples are dubious gambits and non-mainline variations of openings. Also a refuted opening does not end abruptly as you have shown, they can be very very long with perfect play.

If you want a specific example, the tenison gambit which is very popular has a stockfish refutation in the form of dxe4 resulting in around -1 evaluation for black. But does that mean everyone plays the refuted line? No because it is too damn complicated. A lot of players with black will still opt for a french type structure which is more familiar. In summary, refutations are for computers you silly human, play whatever you want just don't make obvious mistakes.

Most popular vs Refuted variations:

At the top level the modern defense is losing and pirc even is very close to losing white just gets a an advantage the alehkines defense doesn't have the analysis of a clear ruedation out the two refutations are simple I can send some analysis if you want

How does "my opponent blundered on move 5" equal "I have refuted the Modern Defense"?

Does not compute.

Op used to be thicc before the name change. That should explain