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 With so many child prodigys, and masters who began chess at an early age. Is there any hope for a late comer to raise his game to the level requiered to challenge the masters? Is there any examples of great masters who took to the game later in life and became successfull? Or am I cursed to medocrity with my older age entry into serious chess study?

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While there are no instances of a late-starter becoming a contender for the world championship, there's ample evidence that they can become masters. Oscar Schapiro achieved his master's rating at the age of 74.

Becoming the best player you can be is a suitable pursuit for any age. 


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Chess is not all about when you began to play; it is all about how much often you play. You can become a master by playing a lot, best wishes.


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http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/learn.htm

 

Don't take all those for gospel but most are probably correct.

Blackburne @19 years

McDonnell @25

Rubinstein @19

Sultan Khan@21 


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goldendog wrote:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/learn.htm

 

Don't take all those for gospel but most are probably correct.

Blackburne @19 years

McDonnell @25

Rubinstein @19

Sultan Khan@21 


 Name: Albin

Year Born: 1893

Year Learned Chess: 1871

 

Chess is apparently learned when we are still at the molecular level! 


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"Chess is apparently learned when we are still at the molecular level! "

 that's 21 years... I'd say he learned when his parents were still at the molecular level!


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 I learned the basics early.... 3 actually from my mom. But I didn't take it seriously, didn't play but maybe once a year till now.... age 31....

Just curious on my resonable growth potential.

Thanks for the comments.

 


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If you are fit and enthusiastic and have a reasonably good programme for improvement there is no reason why you could not be a player to be feared even by player of higher grades. You are in the right environment (here!) where you get the support of other players (young, old, great, and aspiring).  Being the best you can be is much more positive than being a grade.
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I am 105, but still quite spry -- and my mind is sharp as a tack.  Why just yesterday, I checkmated Al Jolson in one move.  ONE MOVE -- you hear??!!!  And today, I have a match slated with Ethel Merman -- the damned whippersnapper.  I'll thrash her within an inch of her life -- you hear??!!!  Age isn't a hindrance at all -- I'll be a chessmaster any day now and Teddy Roosevelt will pin a King medal on my orthopedic shirt -- you hear??!!!
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   Youth is wasted on the young. The reason there are more young masters is they have the time to devote themselves. Chess becomes part of their daily routines and as they grow older it helps provide an income. Thereby providing more time to improve. It has become a way of life.

   An individual who begins his studies later in life is changing a routine he has grown accustomed to. The intellectual capacity for learning is still there. It is the time devoted to endeavours not related to chess that impedes us. How much of our time are we willing to commit. Even GM's lose their edge when chess is no longer their way of life. We put up our own limits.

 


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Your quote by Mark Twain relative to youth brings to mind one of my favorite quotes by Satchel Paige, the great Negro League pitcher. Parphrasing Mr. Paige: "Age is 'mind over matter' - you don't mind - it don't matter".
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hey people, check out de la maza's book rapid chess improvement. it's for adult players who want to improve in this game of chess.(: im not sure if playing is improving, as my first thread shows ("does practice always make perfect" or soemthing), you need to analyse the games and learn from mistakes.

you can always teach an old dogs new tricks.(;


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mytself wrote:

   Youth is wasted on the young. The reason there are more young masters is they have the time to devote themselves. Chess becomes part of their daily routines and as they grow older it helps provide an income. Thereby providing more time to improve. It has become a way of life.

   An individual who begins his studies later in life is changing a routine he has grown accustomed to. The intellectual capacity for learning is still there. It is the time devoted to endeavours not related to chess that impedes us. How much of our time are we willing to commit. Even GM's lose their edge when chess is no longer their way of life. We put up our own limits.

 


 Excellent point. I learned to play early but just now decided to study (middle age). It's remarkable how quickly you can improve if you devote a lot of time to learning and work at it. If I could only retire from work, I'd really be a better player.

 

I've seen some studies that suggest that constantly learning new things may be the best way to avoid loss of mental abilities in old age. So taking up chess at any age should help in that regard. There's a limitless amount to learn, so you'll never run out. 


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dear friend, from my experience, u can get better in 2 3 years of hard work and play. my humble advice is to read books, play against stronger opponents, eventhough u keep losing, and also going into puzzles.

 i bought a small chess set to play even in bed, aron nimzo's my system, one manual about openings , vladimir vukovic's art of attack in chess and a manual about nimzo indian. i kept playing on strong computer chess with elo 1800-2000, (i lost maybe 150 games in a row, still counting) but definetly i got better in 2 years. (my profile was very similar to yours, learnt at 6 y.o but prefered tennis and soccer during longtime) 

books or methods can vary, and i definetly respect all methods proposed, but the only way to get better is playing a better one.

 

keep working frnd and good luck

 

 


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The possibilities of learning is as endless as our dreams... the more time devoted to learning process the more knowledge you acquire in the long run, same as much in chess.
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too old to get good in chess...

Bah! Humbug!

there are hobbies where this is worse...

Too old to get good at _______

1. track & field sports

2. Soccer

3. Sex

4. speaking a foreign language

5. anything with computers that uses mainstream technology

 

if chess ever makes it on the list, you won't have to deal with this problem for too long...


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Hi, I'm new to this forum.

I started at 28 and I don't think I'll ever get this or that high grade. So what? I agree with madpawn in that "Being the best you can be is much more positive than being a grade" (quote). The main thing is just to better yourself. That's why I took up chess in the first place.

PS: I'd have more time to practice if I had a rich (and dead) relative somewhere.

 


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Just keep at it and you never know how far you can get.Although the younger you are the easier it seems to learn does not mean it is impossible for us old farts. I for one have raised my USCF rating 152 points in the last 4 tourn. and i am studying really hard to go even farther and i did this at the young age of 46 so don't quit and most of all don't let anyone tell you it can't be done. Good Luck
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ChessBully911 wrote: AnthonyCG wrote: Most masters start out really early but there's no reason why an older person can't become a master.

 Are you a master Tony?

What, pray tell, is the point of this question? AnthonyCG appears not to be a master, but neither is he an "older person". 

 


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Thank you soo much for the comments and the support everyone!!