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19john45

in open tournaments are higher rated players seeded so as not to play each other if so you should advertise the fact when asking players to enter these tournaments either way i do not think fair to favour the higher rated players what does other lower rated players think not just the higher rated players as they are biased

TadDude

http://www.chess.com/tournaments/help.html#groupings

The official explanation applies only when all groups are full.

The actual explanation that applies in all situations: "For multi-group tournaments, players are placed into groups starting with the lowest rated player, in the last group, sequentially up to the highest rated player. For example, in a 25-player tournament with 5 groups and 5 players in each group, the lowest rated player goes into Group #5, 2nd lowest rated player into Group #4, 3rd lowest rated player into Group #3, and so on. After all groups have one player, it starts all over again at Group #5. So, in this example Group #1 would have the following seeds: #1, #6, #11, #16, and #21. This is done to try and ensure that in the final round, the best players will be left playing for the tournament win."

19john45

 in tournaments  where its 1 against 1 why not an open draw or has per usual its all done to suit higher rated players and i say again you should say these tournaments at the start are seeded so the higher rated dont play each other are they affraid to do so

artfizz
19john45 wrote:

 in tournaments  where its 1 against 1 why not an open draw or has per usual its all done to suit higher rated players and i say again you should say these tournaments at the start are seeded so the higher rated dont play each other are they affraid to do so


About 50% of tournaments have rating range restrictions so that people can play opponents close to their own rating.

Similarly in Team Matches, teams are ordered by rating to ensure a fairer competition.

19john45

we are talking about tournaments not team matches all i am saying is that in open tournaments they should say this tournament is seeded so that high rated players do not play each other as we only want them to win it

artfizz
19john45 wrote:

we are talking about tournaments not team matches all i am saying is that in open tournaments they should say this tournament is seeded so that high rated players do not play each other as we only want them to win it


ALL chess.com tournaments - whether open or with a rating restriction - are seeded in exactly the same way (as TadDude described in post#2).

Kkidplayer

But you don't need to worry about that, all of the high rated players will be in one section, and you will be in another. They will win their section because they are higher rated, not because the system is unfair!

Kkidplayer

And if the highest rated players get knocked out early, then the crowd will have less reason to stay and watch games

19john45

all i am saying is that you should put this tournament is seeded if not why not

inmaniac

I've learned my lesson.  I will not join a tournament that is open to a wide range of ratings.  You'll end up getting slaughtered by a 2200 in 15 moves.  

If you join an open one when its nearly full, then you can look at the players who have joined.  Then if there is a good spread maybe its ok to join that one.  

19john45

WHAT CROWDS

ChessisGood
19john45 wrote:

in open tournaments are higher rated players seeded so as not to play each other if so you should advertise the fact when asking players to enter these tournaments either way i do not think fair to favour the higher rated players what does other lower rated players think not just the higher rated players as they are biased


Quite a run-on sentence...

19john45

is that the only comment you can make my grammar is that supposed to belittle me

Phelon

So basically you want a tournament where the best players arent given a good chance to win, possibly even disadvantaged. Ya that makes sense. Also if you deserved to win the tournament you would beat the strong players.