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I_Am_Second
EAPidgeon wrote:

I recommend you familiarize yourself with openings with many transpositions and that are common.

 

The worst possible advice (sorry) Until you are at least 1800, forget about studying openings.  Find 2 openings with white, and black, that you like to play.  Learn the ideas and principles behind those openings, and thats it.  Its sad to hear players rated 1200-1600 bragging how they know the Marshall gambit 20 moves deep, or some such nonsense.  These are the players, that once they are out of the opening have no idea what to do, or how to come up with a middle game plan.

holon23
rtr1129 wrote:
mattyf9 wrote:

Give myself a reward?  What are we dogs?  

Yes, exactly! Habit formation happens mostly in the basal ganglia part of the brain, which dogs also have.

Research tells us willpower is a depletable resource. If you try to form a good habit, or break a bad habit, by using only willpower, you are very likely to fail.

Our brains crave creating habits, because it puts our brain on autopilot, and frees the brain to focus its energy on more important tasks.

Here's an example of how it works. You want to start running every morning at 7am. Here's what you do. The night before, put your running shoes and clothes next to the bed, and set an alarm for 7am. Put your reward (chocolate, or whatever) by the door for when you return from your run. Go to bed for the night. When your alarm goes off, get up and put on your running shoes, and walk out your front door. At this point, you can run as little as you like, 10 steps to your mailbox and back is fine. Go back inside and have your chocolate. Repeat this every day, and your brain will take this cluster of "trigger-action-reward" and put it on autopilot. Once you have established this habit, you can start running farther than to your mailbox. The hard part (getting out of bed and getting out the front door) is on autopilot now. Your brain no longer fights against it, it now craves it.

The reason this works is because our brain takes the "trigger-action-reward" cluster and begins to associate the reward with the trigger. There is a famous experiment where a monkey was shown shapes on a computer screen, and if he pulled a level, he would get a drop of blackberry juice. At first, his brain activity would spike only AFTER he got the blackberry juice (the reward). After he kept pulling the level for a while, his brain activity would spike as soon as the shapes showed up on the screen, BEFORE he got his reward.

After a few weeks, when your alarm clock goes off at 7am, your brain experiences the joy of the reward BEFORE you go running, and so you have created this situation where it's now pleasurable for you to get up and go running, and where your brain will have to use its limited amounts of willpower to stay in bed. If you try to stop running now, you may even experience withdrawl symptoms and have a mini bout of depression.

This explains it in a little more detail:

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/02/an_excerpt_from_charles_duhigg_s_the_power_of_habit_.html

And you can read a book called "The Power of Habit" by Charles Duhigg for even more info on it.

wow .. that was really interesting, thanks for the input

Ptol4o

yes i sad that at the start of the topic but its preatty usefull for 5 days a game

I_Am_Second
orangeishblue wrote:
Ptol4o wrote:

kotov teaches you how to anlyze no to think his book is not toatlly useless in online chess its very usefull

That is the claim in Kotov's book, but it isn't true. Think Like A Grandmaster is garbage. Dan heisman's book Improving Chess Thinker is far better.

I wouldnt say its garbage, its just a different way of how to think.  Admittedly its a dryer way, but for some it works. 

yup790

Can you just give me a book/simple method for gaining a good thinking system, ie. tactics trainer trains tactics.

thank you.

MCBeaker
yup790 wrote:

Should I play fritz or online live/correspondance.  I don't want my rating to lower(I play people who are 200 higher than me)

Stop worrying about your rating and just focus on the actual chess.

Play slow games.

They can be against  a computer, live or correspondence, anything is better than nothing, just play slow!

MCBeaker
yup790 wrote:

Can you just give me a book/simple method for gaining a good thinking system, ie. tactics trainer trains tactics.

thank you.

Read Dan Heisman's Novice Nook articles from ChessCafe. Find the archives and start at number 1. He has a lot of excellent advice. Dan is a National Master and award winning Coach.

Do what Dan says. Come back in 3 months, it takes time.

ernestosim01

Thank you very much. As someone who can't find the right time and place for chess training (aka me), this is the god-sent answer. I have the e-book you mentioned which just lay unread on my tablet but now I know what to do and how to do. I think this advise helps me more than the OP. Thank you rtr1129.

rtr1129 wrote:

yup790 wrote:

My main problem is that I don't think.  I loose nearly all games to a tactical mistake.  This is keeping me below the 1000 mark.

Doing tactics problems is important, and you won't fix your tactical mistakes without doing tactics problems almost every day. Even if you only start with 1 problem per day, that's fine. The important thing is that you get into the habit of improving your chess every day.

I say this because forming a new habit is the hard part. Once the habit is formed, you can do more than 1 problem per day. Psychology research says a successful habit has three parts: (1) A trigger, (2) the action/habit, and (3) a reward.

So do this: At the same time each day, in the same place, get away from all screens (TV/computer/phone/etc), take a few deep breaths, and do 1 tactical problem. Then give yourself a piece of chocolate or candy, or whatever you like. The reward is critical, you won't form a habit without it. Once this becomes a habit that you do every day, start doing more than 1 problem.

However, you also need to have some structure to your thinking process when you play. I am reading this book, "The Process of Decision Making in Chess" by Philip Ochman. You can download it from Amazon for like $8. The way I am using it is, I go through the process he describes on paper. It takes a very long time on paper. The goal is to get faster and faster, and eventually be able to do it OTB.

I would suggest you stop playing blitz and only play Online Chess where you have several days to make a move. First you need to get used to thinking about chess correctly, and that means taking your time. Later on, what takes you 30 minutes to think about now, will become instant. The same way you first learned letters, then words, then sentences.

Yaroslavl

yup790 wrote:

My main problem is that I don't think.  I loose nearly all games to a tactical mistake.  This is keeping me below the 1000 mark.

Igor smirnov gives a good thinking system but I don't know how to train this.  All he said was use GM games.

Please help

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It is almost imperceptible, but as you get better at chess your brain focuses back and forth first on the pieces and pawns then on the squares they control with their imaginary powers. When you are concentrating on the squares they come into clear forces and the pawns and pieces become blurry. When you are concentrating on the pawns and pieces the squares become blurry.

As you become a a better and better player your CONTROL over this alternating process going on in your brain becomes stronger and stronger.

If you would like to know more please let me know.

ernestosim01

Yaroslavl,

Yes, I'd like to know more. What's your training method for reaching that goal?

Yaroslavl

ernestosim01 wrote:

Yaroslavl,

Yes, I'd like to know more. What's your training method for reaching that goal?

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First, there are 3 things you need to know:

1.Chess is Modified Siege Warfare on a chessboard. It is all about 3 methods/strategies (restrain, blockade and execute, the enemy)

2.Pawn Structure/Formation is the terrain (mountains, hills, valleys of the battlefield). There are 6 characterisitc pawn structures/formations that the position assumes form any opening within 6-10 moves. Learning how to play either side of those 6 structures is essential.

3.There are 5 visualization pattern memory banks which you must build into your brain:

a.Tactics visualization pattern memory bank

b.Mating Net visualization pattern memory bank

c.Endgame visualization pattern memory bank

d.Opening visualization pattern memory bank

e.Middlegame visualization pattern memory bank

Start with 2 basic tools to organize and control your thinking and play:

1.A Before I Make A Move Checklist which you will expand as your knowledge of chess increases:

a. What is my opponent's Threat?

b. What is the pawn structure that the position has assumed on the board?

2.SIT ON YOUR HANDS when you are at the chessboard.

baruchyadid

yup790: "I loose nearly all games to a tactical mistake"

So why not focus on that? I'm just curious.

cdowis75
ernestosim01 wrote:

Yaroslavl,

Yes, I'd like to know more. What's your training method for reaching that goal?

You want advice from a player that is under 1000?

rtr1129
cdowis75 wrote:

You want advice from a player that is under 1000?

Who is under 1000?

ernestosim01

Yeah, that's my very same question?

yup790

I have read the f chapter of dan heismans book but how do I make myself more systematic

Ptol4o

i just started reading a book it says in the middle game its rare to have a plan in the middle game its   more often reacting to tactics and playing strageticly

baruchyadid
Ptol4o wrote:

i just started reading a book it says in the middle game its rare to have a plan in the middle game its   more often reacting to tactics and playing strageticly

What book?

Can you provide the quote?

Yaroslavl

Yaroslavl wrote:

yup790 wrote:

My main problem is that I don't think.  I loose nearly all games to a tactical mistake.  This is keeping me below the 1000 mark.

Igor smirnov gives a good thinking system but I don't know how to train this.  All he said was use GM games.

Please help

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It is almost imperceptible, but as you get better at chess your brain focuses back and forth first on the pieces and pawns then on the squares they control with their imaginary powers. When you are concentrating on the squares they come into clear forces and the pawns and pieces become blurry. When you are concentrating on the pawns and pieces the squares become blurry.

As you become a a better and better player your CONTROL over this alternating process going on in your brain becomes stronger and stronger.

If you would like to know more please let me know.

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Yaroslavl

ernestosim01 wrote:

Yaroslavl,

Yes, I'd like to know more. What's your training method for reaching that goal?

_____________________

First, there are 3 things you need to know:

1.Chess is Modified Siege Warfare on a chessboard. It is all about 3 methods/strategies (restrain, blockade and execute, the enemy)

2.Pawn Structure/Formation is the terrain (mountains, hills, valleys of the battlefield). There are 6 characterisitc pawn structures/formations that the position assumes form any opening within 6-10 moves. Learning how to play either side of those 6 structures is essential.

3.There are 5 visualization pattern memory banks which you must build into your brain:

a.Tactics visualization pattern memory bank

b.Mating Net visualization pattern memory bank

c.Endgame visualization pattern memory bank

d.Opening visualization pattern memory bank

e.Middlegame visualization pattern memory bank

Start with 2 basic tools to organize and control your thinking and play:

1.A Before I Make A Move Checklist which you will expand as your knowledge of chess increases:

a. What is my opponent's Threat?

b. What is the pawn structure that the position has assumed on the board?

2.SIT ON YOUR HANDS when you are at the chessboard.

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Yaroslavl

rtr1129 wrote:

Yaroslavl wrote:

"First, there are 3 things you need to know..."

How does the ability to visualize the board and calculate fit into the framework you describe? It's different than the 5 pattern recognition areas (I think). For instance, when I play correspondence chess and use an analysis board (not a computer), I play significantly better. Is the ability to move the pieces around in your mind, and see clearly the final position, its own skill that can be learned and improved? Or is it limited to natural visualization ability?

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Campaigning for a candidate in a congressional race for a vacant seat in the Federal House of Representatives has kept me very busy lately and will continue until March 11th.

When I have more time I will share a detailed answer to your questions complete with diagrams. For now I will briefly answer the question and use generalized examples to explain the reasons for the answer.

Beginning with your second question, " Is the ability to move the pieces around in your mind, and see clearly the final position, its own skill that can be learned and improved?", the short answer is YES it is it's own skill. NO, it is NOT limitedby natural visualization ability. With practice you will be able to play an entire game in your head using only the algebraic chess notation of the game. And, you will be able to read a chess book without having to use a physical chessboard. The only diagram you will need is the one in your head. It CAN be learned and improved. The ability to move the pieces around in your mind, and see clearly the final position improves with practice and learning some signposts and shortcuts. Several examples of shortcuts are:

1.determining what is the PAWN STRUCTURE of the position. This will make it possible to analyze the position from the correct perspective. This knowledge alone makes it possible to cut out extraneous analysis.

2.knowing that backward isolated pawns on half-open files, isolated pawns on half-open file,double isolanis on adjacent half-open files, doubled pawns, etc. are weaknesses and how to exploit them.

3.knowing that one of our own pawns that is a protected passer, an outside passer, etc. are advantages and how to exploit them.

4.the 5 visualization pattern memory banks causes a move to jump up off of the position and strike you on the forehead in a flash.

Several examples of signposts are:

1.pawns CANNOT MOVE BACKWARDS. Any pawn move alters the position PERMANENTLY. Analyze long and hard any pawn move, yours as well as your opponent's.

2.PIECES CAN MOVE BACKWARDS. Check the position being analyzed exhaustively for the possibility of BACKWARD CAPTURES by enemy pieces. Also check exhaustively for SQUARES that enemy pieces are DEFENDING BACKWARDS.

3.knowing the difference between DIRECT and INDIRECT DEFENSE and being aware of those 2 possibilities in your analysis. Especially the knowledge that INDIRECT DEFENSE keeps the initiative/attack.

Now and in conclusion to your initial question, "How does the ability to visualize the board and calculate fit into the framework you describe?". The explanation above, I believe, makes clear that the framework I describe is a system of signposts and shortcuts that enhances considerably the ability to visualize the board and calculate. That is how they fit together.

ernestosim01

Yaroslavl, there's so much meat in your posts. You might as well write a book about it after your campaign. Good luck to your congressional race. I hope you'll be back in this thread whatever happens.