...and for those who are interested in the finish ?
Thx Ziryab !
True or False Chess is a Draw with Best Play from Both Sides
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Aug 26, 2020
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#3503
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
...and for those who are interested in the finish ?
Thx Ziryab !
If you're making it White to play, this is quicker
Aug 26, 2020
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#3504
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
...and for those who are interested in the finish ?
Thx Ziryab !
8.Qc2#
that's true, but if your calling ti perfect that means time should not be a factor.
Aug 26, 2020
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#3507
somebody is sure to die given the amount of analysis needed to find the very best move in every position, if you don’t time the game.
riiiiight...I missed the # at Qc2. its all mangy's fault. he distracted me. yee !
Huh!
Ziryab. The challenge was to post a perfect game of chess [which for our forum means a game where neither side made an error] and one side won. [winning on time does not count]
And, yes, in correspondence chess at the highest levels there are many games which were mistake free.
Aug 26, 2020
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#3512
ponz111 wrote:
Ziryab. The challenge was to post a perfect game of chess [which for our forum means a game where neither side made an error] and one side won. [winning on time does not count]
And, yes, in correspondence chess at the highest levels there are many games which were mistake free.
Has anyone done so?
Ziryab Yes, there have been many correspondence games where neither side made a mistake and some of these have been posted. [they all ended in a draw, of course]
But I am not sure of what is your question? If you are asking if any game has been posted where there were no mistakes by either side and one side won [other than by time] --the answer is "no"
Aug 26, 2020
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#3514
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
riiiiight...I missed the # at Qc2. its all mangy's fault. he distracted me. yee !
But mainly you were intent on taking the pawn before it promoted, which is not necessary once your king is close enough. You still switched the side to move - it should have been Black..
Aug 26, 2020
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#3515
good luck finding two players that can play perfect moves.
Aug 26, 2020
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#3516
ponz111 wrote:
Ziryab Yes, there have been many correspondence games where neither side made a mistake and some of these have been posted. [they all ended in a draw, of course]
But I am not sure of what is your question? If you are asking if any game has been posted where there were no mistakes by either side and one side won [other than by time] --the answer is "no"
That's precisely what I asked here (when you proceeded to note that the errors had been pointed out without addressing the question).
Ziryab wrote:
ponz111 wrote:
I believe from 62 years of playing chess and thousands of my own games that chess is a draw unless one side or the other makes a mistake.
I would suggest that out of billions of chess games that one cannot find even one game which was won or lost without one of the players making a mistake. If anyone thinks they can find such a game please post it here.
Did I miss the post? AFAIK, no one has posted an error free game that did not end in a draw.
Just want to make sure that I'm up-to-date.
Aug 26, 2020
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#3517
Optimissed wrote:
Incidentally, I'm 100% sure that chess is a draw. I wonder how you work out that you're exactly 99.9999% sure of something? There's a chap called R. Dawkins who thinks along those lines and, surely, he isn't all that bright?
How, for that matter, do you work out that you're exactly 100% sure of anything. You need to have a defined measure in either case. If you just say you're sure that's different.
Is the R. Dawkins you're talking about R. Dawkins FRS?
Fellows of the Royal Society are usually exceptionally bright compared with the Hoi Polloi. If you find him not all that bright you must be amazingly intelligent!
Perhaps that's why I can never follow your reasoning.
igotmange wrote:
good luck finding two players that can play perfect moves.
i would surmise ur a player ?...and u have summa most perfect moves on the shelines ? lol !
luvya tomkat !
igotmange there have been lots of games where both players made no errors [our definition of a perfect game]
Aug 26, 2020
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#3520
MARattigan wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Incidentally, I'm 100% sure that chess is a draw. I wonder how you work out that you're exactly 99.9999% sure of something? There's a chap called R. Dawkins who thinks along those lines and, surely, he isn't all that bright?
How, for that matter, do you work out that you're exactly 100% sure of anything. You need to have a defined measure in either case. If you just say you're sure that's different.
Is the R. Dawkins you're talking about R. Dawkins FRS?
Fellows of the Royal Society are usually exceptionally bright compared with the Hoi Polloi. If you find him not all that bright you must be amazingly intelligent!
Perhaps that's why I can never follow your reasoning.
lol
1...Kh2
2. Qxp
1...b1 (Q)
2. Qd2#
***
1...b1(kn)
2. white just wins
And what I missed in my edit was 1...Kc2 2.Kd4 with mate in 4 ( similar considerations).