It would not surprise you that I use blitz mode on CT haha
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Yeah I use that sometimes too and TT here, but mixed mode is my main tactics trainer. Good for not just tactics as well though as I like to flick over the source game and use the analysis etc, etc.
Tactical trainer develops bad habits, moving on impulse instead of taking your time. You should be rewarded if you find the correct solution not penalize for taking your time and solve it correctly.
yureesystem wrote:
Tactical trainer develops bad habits, moving on impulse instead of taking your time. You should be rewarded if you find the correct solution not penalize for taking your time and solve it correctly.
It certainly can, but I think it is the individual's fault if he or she does not do tactics trainers at different speeds.
The way I break down my training is that I (usually) spend about 1/3 of my time on puzzles in books (or CT-Art), taking as long as I need; 1/3 on bullet tactics problems on Chess Tactics Server (if you can find the solution in 3 seconds or less, you know the pattern, for sure!); 1/6 of my time on TT, which requires most answers in 30-75 seconds; and 1/6 of my time on a server that allows multiple minutes to find the solution before deducting points, such as chesstempo.
kevinsong2003 wrote:
TT is simply giving you the truth of the matter, take too long? Too bad, 99% of the people would just skim over it in a real game because they "don't have time to check every variation".
True to an extent. I find precipitously more answers to puzzles for each additional 30 second block of time I have. Proper time management, in the fashion of Dan Heisman, maximizes what one will see in an actual game.
Milliern wrote:
yureesystem wrote:
Tactical trainer develops bad habits, moving on impulse instead of taking your time. You should be rewarded if you find the correct solution not penalize for taking your time and solve it correctly.
It certainly can, but I think it is the individuals fault if he or she does not do tactics trainers at different speeds.
The way I break down my training is that I (usually) spend about 1/3 of my time on puzzles in books (or CT-Art), taking as long as I need; 1/3 on bullet tactics problems on Chess Tactics Server (if you can find the solution in 3 seconds or less, you know the pattern, for sure!); 1/6 of my time on TT, which requires most answers in 30-75 seconds; and 1/6 of my time on a server that allows multiple minutes to find the solution before deducting points, such as chesstempo.
I did tactical trainer foor three years, noticed very little improvement. I started at about two month doing tactics through a book and I am improving and getting stronger. I am not bad at tactical trainer 2100 level, but what to develop real tactical abilities that last and it won't be from tactical trainer. Doing 2600 tactical problems I should at least be improving but I am not; I stay at 2080 to 2150 level.
Jun 20, 2015
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#68
Is it my imagination or have they fixed the scoring? I just got a 9 and an 8 ... never seen that before. Now if I find I get a point for a correct albeit long solution I will be a happy camper.
Today
13 correct 4 incorrect a pass rate of 76 %
Rating increase 22 points or 1.3 %
They really do know how to demotivate you on here.
No the scoring system has not been fixed
Still stupid time penalties.
Sceadungen wrote:
Today
13 correct 4 incorrect a pass rate of 76 %
Rating increase 22 points or 1.3 %
They really do know how to demotivate you on here.
No the scoring system has not been fixed
Still stupid time penalties.
Go to v3 then. You're premium...
Chess is tough. You must toughen yourself!
V3 How do I do that
Jun 22, 2015
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#73
Timer is rubbish...I just use a TT elsewhere, one which has only a small time penalty. I loath solving a problem and losing points.
Jun 23, 2015
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#75
I went to the new V3 ... didn't like the interface and came back to the old version ... but I think I'm seeing a different scoring regime ... on the old TT ...
PhilJC wrote:
I went to the new V3 ... didn't like the interface and came back to the old version ... but I think I'm seeing a different scoring regime ... on the old TT ...
Same here. I didn't like the interface. It's like web-developers have zero clue about what worked well with old versions and what didn't. The fundamental drive is to change a bunch of crap, rather than take stock of what's good and improve what's not.
In my opinion, the only interface online better than chess.com's is instantchess.com --which, as a site, chess.com is hands-down better than. If chess.com had it in their minds to alter the interface, they should try to one-up or mimic instantchess.com.
PhilJC wrote:
I went to the new V3 ... didn't like the interface and came back to the old version ... but I think I'm seeing a different scoring regime ... on the old TT ...
How exactly? I seriously doubt there are any changes to the old version. I have even been using a little of late, just in odd moments when I haven't got time for a proper tactics session, and I see no changes at all.
Jul 6, 2015
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#78
Thought I had noticed some changes in that 7s and 8s were being awarded for correct answers but it seems that now we are back to the old 2s and 3s for correct answers and -8 and 9s for wrong. It's just too penalizing. Time to leave.
Jan 26, 2016
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#79
I wrote asking for at least some kind of clarification about the scoring system and what the purpose of 'resetting your history' was intended to be ... nobody bothered to write back ... so the scoring system is demoralizing ... and so is staff response ... or rather lack of ...
PhilJC wrote:
I wrote asking for at least some kind of clarification about the scoring system and what the purpose of 'resetting your history' was intended to be ... nobody bothered to write back ... so the scoring system is demoralizing ... and so is staff response ... or rather lack of ...
Well I can at least speak to the whole "resetting your history" thing. A few years ago we had a very enthusiatic member who wrote numerous posts about the advantages of reviewing basic patterns over and over again. Heisman is a big proponent of this and recommends doing an easy tactics book over and over again until you recognize the patterns. I've done it about a dozen times and just seem to be getting worse, 
, but then I'm old.
You're right. The scoring system is demoralizing. I prefer the custom unrated training over at V3. Lots of filters, no pressure.
Place has tripled membership since I'm here. I think staff is just overwhelmed. Please do try V3, the TT is really improved. (Try the new Chess.com at the bottom of the page.)
"My goal is to apply the patterns and ideas in a timely manner."
OK great, for this I use chess tempo mixed mode, which I believe is pure gold. You say 'timely manner' and if you mean in a timely manner that would suit a standard control game (of at least G90+) then, this is far superior to TT here.
In mixed mode you can spend 5 minutes before being penalised, which I think is an average realistic time to spend per move in a standard game (with some opening moves/only moves played quicker.)
My issue with TT here is that the timing are far from realistic as the system is based around average time solved. That would be OK if every single person approached TT as if it was a real game and a wrong move meant that you could win/lose the whole game, but the reality is of course people blitz out moves in order to try and beat the timer.
This is not helped by the ridiculous idea to reward partially correct answers?? I.e. wrong answers, for if you get the first few moves right, but throw the whole game in the next move!
Maybe this is different in the v3 and improved, but CT will always be far superior so I'm not that fussed to find out.