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donnie-ray

Are people who play Chess, but have never studied the game frustrating to learned Chess players? Just curious.

I enjoy it, but play by the seat of my pants....don't know a Sicilian from a hole in the ground. I'm sure it's obvious to those who have studied that I haven't. I'm still having fun and basically wanted to exercise my brain a little.

Just curious.

Zen
I dunno about frustrating but sometimes I find playing against uneducated opponents harder since you never know what to expect.
donnie-ray

I guess I use the word frustrating because in my 30 something wins I think only two are by checkmate....the remainder are either resignation or timed out.

I have had numerous games where I luck into a good move and capture a queen and they immediately quit.

jminkler
donnie-ray wrote:

I guess I use the word frustrating because in my 30 something wins I think only two are by checkmate....the remainder are either resignation or timed out.

I have had numerous games where I luck into a good move and capture a queen and they immediately quit.


 Some better players know when they are beaten, and will resign, as to not waste the time involved. You should always play the game till the end though. This will teach you how to finish off an opponent. Losing a game is the best way to learn.


excalibur8
jminkler wrote:

 Some better players know when they are beaten, and will resign, as to not waste the time involved. You should always play the game till the end though. This will teach you how to finish off an opponent. Losing a game is the best way to learn.

It may save time, and it may be etiquette to resign when you are so far behind, you are likely to learn more if you play to the end; after all, we all had to start from the beginning, and some players seem to have forgotten that.

 

shero73
my friend , chess is for everybody not just good players , and remember everybody ( even Kasparov ) was a beginner once . As long as you enjoy playing that is all that counts
littleman
Yeah i agree its for all. To be honest it doesnt worry me i have found the players who havnt studied play interesting chess but obviously without the knowledge fail to have a solid plan so they lose alot more then they win.But at least there having fun doing it lol.....Cool
SK-B

I do not find it frustrating to play anyone of whatever skill level. I am always willing to play an unrated game so as not to take advantage of a beginner, but I usually hesitate to suggest it as I am concerned that the person may feel insulted.

 

Playing with a nice person, particularly if there are some comments with a sense of humor is always gratifying to me. I do not like it when I greet someone with a cheery "hello" and they do not respond, or when someone makes an irritating remark. There are some people on this sight whom I just like playing, even if there are few words, because it feels friendly. 


donnie-ray
ty all for your kind and reassuring remarks.
norman276

I joined this site about 5 days ago with about the same ability as you. I lost my first 6 games and won my 7th. Never felt that I was annoying more experienced players. In fact one offered me an unrated rematch where I can correct my errors.

In addition I joined a group whose members include people with ratings over 2000. These experts have gladly assisted me in learning by my errors.

southshorechess

I will play anyone anytime regardless of skill level  ! ya win yalose ya live

I am enjoying all of this!

some of my "funnies" are lost on some players.Some dont know english "Chess is

a universal language " I like a bit of banter and chat after all were are humans

not computers ,at least most of us thank D -R

blowerd

The only time I really get frustrated is if I lose a match and think "I am capable of better than this."  I really don't mind losing so much if I think "well theres nothing I could have done about that one." 

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Well put.

I get frustrated if I play poorly, regardless of the outcome. The game lasts hours, and if I'm missing a lot of stuff, then this feeling will last hours. If the guy hangs a rook in time trouble, I take it, he resigns, and all of a sudden I win. But I'm still not happy with my play.

Natalia_Pogonina

Poor play by any of the partners is disgusting. The more you love chess, the more picky you get about your own play and other player's moves.

ARandomPerson

the only frusterating thing is how quickly they can throw you out of the book. otherwise it is a fun game with a unique outcome.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

I used to have the theory that it is more exhausting to play against someone lower-rated, who is perpetually making less-than-optimal-but-not-clearly-losing moves.

You think, come up with a plan, calculate a little, make your move. They make some move which you had only briefly considered, because for example it changes the structure in a not good way for your opponent. So you repeat. You need a new plan (structure begets plan), calculate a little, make your move. They make another slightly unexpected move. Repeat.

Isn't it much easier when you're on the same wavelength as your opponent; when their moves are the ones that you're predicting?

bigpoison
ARandomPerson wrote:

the only frusterating thing is how quickly they can throw you out of the book. otherwise it is a fun game with a unique outcome.


Really?!  That's when it gets fun--and when the unique outcome occurs.

RandyHooHa
Natalia_Pogonina wrote:

Poor play by any of the partners is disgusting.


I couldn't agree more, Natalia. Poor play by anyone - I don't care who it is - makes me sick to the stomach. It makes me mad that in the twenty-first century, after four billion years of evolution, two world wars, and nearly a dozen Bon Jovi albums, some people still have the temerity to play chess poorly. My marriage ended after my so-called wife tried to hang on to her extra pawn in a Queen's Gambit Accepted. I couldn't believe it. I thought I knew her after ten years of marriage, but I was wrong. We were never the same after that, and she's only got herself to blame. Thank God there are still people in this benighted world who have the basic decency to avoid poor play.

ARandomPerson
RandyHooHa wrote:
Natalia_Pogonina wrote:

Poor play by any of the partners is disgusting.


I couldn't agree more, Natalia. Poor play by anyone - I don't care who it is - makes me sick to the stomach. It makes me mad that in the twenty-first century, after four billion years of evolution, two world wars, and nearly a dozen Bon Jovi albums, some people still have the temerity to play chess poorly. My marriage ended after my so-called wife tried to hang on to her extra pawn in a Queen's Gambit Accepted. I couldn't believe it. I thought I knew her after ten years of marriage, but I was wrong. We were never the same after that, and she's only got herself to blame. Thank God there are still people in this benighted world who have the basic decency to avoid poor play.

well, natalia, it looks like you and peter may be on the rocks soon...

call me, I play chass well... LOL JK


dsarkar

Contrary to what others say, I find playing with players not prepared in openings pushovers and easy wins! I can seize an advantage early (and hence the win). BTW, most of my wins in chess.com are from players not versed in openings.

It is only when I am not prepared in those particular variationa - I feel that my opponent's variations are unsound but I cannot find outright refutations - that I feel frustrated.