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batgirl wrote:

Of course it's silly.  This is the new chess. com.

Yep, and society in general. It’s human nature that one is more motivated to register a negative vote/comment than a positive one. One can do 100 things perfectly and only hear about the one ticked off reviewer. 

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batgirl wrote:

You're confused. Yong is my cousin.

I wasn't talking about when you were young 

I was talking about Yong , which means you 

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Lord_Hammer wrote:
nTzT wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote

... it discards a lot of features live chess ( especially time per move ),....

 

Time per move exists in Play.

No it doesnt show when I look at a game from archive and it didnt show during the game either 

Huh, I have it:

 

Nope, nothing 

 

 


Hard to take someone serious when they don't even know how basic features work after being on a website for 2 years and playing thousands of games...

Hard to take someone seriously when they don't know 2021-2018 = 3, not 2...

 

I have been on the site much longer also. And btw Play is a newer feature that I don't use, so it doesn't matter how long I've been on the site. I've always used live chess, and will keep using it until its taken down 

So, don't bash something if you don't even know how it works you absolute clown. Go troll on chess24 or something. Whining baby. 

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batgirl wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

 

I remember when live chess was new.

The beginnings of Daily Chess:




The beginnings of Live Chess:
Sept 29, 2009

 

 

Yup. I joined Nov 2007.

For awhile I was very near the top on the Endless Quiz. I lost interest when I found multiple duplicate questions submitted by different users, and a large number of questions composed out of ignorance.

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Ian_Rastall wrote: That translates to action.

You are making a common error: mistaking an activity for an action. One thing is making changes for sake of appearing busy and engaged. The other is a pursuit of a long-term goals.

Ways of managing large pools of interacting online users are well known since the days of USENET and CompuServe (pre-AOL acquisition). Or more recently Gaker Media family of sites. Eg. splitting of threads, moving sub-thread to off-topic areas, thread-following reader interfaces, individual kill-files, ability to quickly view all user's contributions (not just threads they started!), etc.

By reinventing the wheel, you may be able to fool some people some of the time. But the pool of such people is getting smaller and smaller since Mark Zuckerberg started farming it in his Facebook/Meta farm. Obviously, this pool is constantly getting replenished by the young children staring their online interactions from the blank slate.

Sorry, I'm having some sort of technical problem with posting, I'll finish my thought later.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa there @melvinbluestone! Talking smack about the “Dogs Playing Poker”? What next, you don’t appreciate the Black Velvet Elvis? 

Actually, i wanted to say “Too right you are!” I thought about lazily registering an upvote, but it didn’t seem apropos. Well stated!

 

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Oh… back to the days of excessive television adverts. We could simply get off the couch and grab another one from the fridge. A little refreshment and on with the show !

Today we count the hits … just take a gander and push a tab. Coca-cola delivered to the front door.

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kalafiorczyk wrote:
Ian_Rastall wrote: That translates to action.

You are making a common error: mistaking an activity for an action. One thing is making changes for sake of appearing busy and engaged. The other is a pursuit of a long-term goals.

Ways of managing large pools of interacting online users are well known since the days of USENET and CompuServe (pre-AOL acquisition). Or more recently Gaker Media family of sites. Eg. splitting of threads, moving sub-thread to off-topic areas, thread-following reader interfaces, individual kill-files, ability to quickly view all user's contributions (not just threads they started!), etc.

By reinventing the wheel, you may be able to fool some people some of the time. But the pool of such people is getting smaller and smaller since Mark Zuckerberg started farming it in his Facebook/Meta farm. Obviously, this pool is constantly getting replenished by the young children staring their online interactions from the blank slate.

Sorry, I'm having some sort of technical problem with posting, I'll finish my thought later.

It's cool. I think it's an interesting topic. I think there's something so false about the upvote and downvote system, in terms of users needing their +1 of dopamine, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't work. Here's an FB example. They've always resisted downvotes, and it's just numbers. If there's more resentment, less people will be connected, and the revenue will be down. But because they've made that business decision about the human population itself, we have perspective on the impracticality of an overly-critical environment, even as it thrives. In other words, a more polite society really does operate better. It's literal proof. So I'm grateful for that. Just remember that people will always be who they are anyway. The net just brings it to the surface. Probably getting some rest now, though. Me, not the net.

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Ziryab wrote:
batgirl wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

 

I remember when live chess was new.

The beginnings of Daily Chess:




The beginnings of Live Chess:
Sept 29, 2009

 

 

Yup. I joined Nov 2007.

For awhile I was very near the top on the Endless Quiz. I lost interest when I found multiple duplicate questions submitted by different users, and a large number of questions composed out of ignorance.

The Endless Quiz was a good idea gone bad.

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Ian_Rastall wrote:

[...] an FB example. [..] even as it thrives. [...] Probably getting some rest now, though.

Same mistake again: Facebook isn't thriving. It is about as thriving as a growth of cancer cells in comparison to the growth of regular cells. Their recent name change to Meta can be considered truth-in-advertising disclosure about metastasized growth.

 Enjoy your Matrix 4 movie and remember to watch the end-credits to the last second for the important message from the authors.

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 Měl jsem problém s druhým účtem. Na hru jsem se sice dostal,ale na chaty a ostatní nikoliv. Musel mi pomoci až v chesslive.com.Bez jejich pomoci bych to nedokázal. Děkuji ještě jednou.

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Lord_Hammer wrote:
nTzT wrote:

So, don't bash something if you don't even know how it works you absolute clown. Go troll on chess24 or something. Whining baby. 

So the person whos illiterate and cant do math is calling other people clowns? Haha this is gold. 

 

Now take a step back and reevaluate your life for a second. 

Both of you are acting like clowns, making fools out of yourselves for entertainment wink.png

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batgirl wrote:

While Chess. com has been a "social" site since its inception, the social aspect looked a lot different then compared to now. Not only was it friendlier, but it was more chess-directed. 

Here are screencaps of Genral Chess Discussion and Chess Community forum topics (there was no Off-topic back then) from June 18, 2007. Not a single troll topic among them:

 

 

To be fair, that shows multiple weeks of topics fitting on a single page. There were no trolls, but there were also hardly any people at all.

Not that I wouldn't be for stricter rules, particularly against low effort posts.

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Ziryab wrote:
batgirl wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

 

I remember when live chess was new.

The beginnings of Daily Chess:




The beginnings of Live Chess:
Sept 29, 2009

 

 

Yup. I joined Nov 2007.

For awhile I was very near the top on the Endless Quiz. I lost interest when I found multiple duplicate questions submitted by different users, and a large number of questions composed out of ignorance.

I remember clicking on that once. One of the first questions was "there is an opening called the cole"

I answered "false" because it's colle (with two ls). It counted me wrong, so I thought oh, it's just a bunch of kids making silly questions, and I never went back.

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Lord_Hammer wrote

... it discards a lot of features live chess ( especially time per move ),....

 

Time per move exists in Play.

No it doesnt show when I look at a game from archive and it didnt show during the game either 

Huh, I have it:

 

Nope, nothing 

 

 

 

Then you need to enable the settings. Do it from within Play. If it's already shown as enabled, toggle it off, then back on.

 

Timestamps have been in Play since the beta and are still there today.

That's a little annoying, that there are two separate settings areas, and that play's is a tiny icon that's not easy to find... but ok, that probably fixes it (seems it's turned off by default)

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llama47 wrote:
batgirl wrote:

While Chess. com has been a "social" site since its inception, the social aspect looked a lot different then compared to now. Not only was it friendlier, but it was more chess-directed. 

Here are screencaps of Genral Chess Discussion and Chess Community forum topics (there was no Off-topic back then) from June 18, 2007. Not a single troll topic among them:

 

 

To be fair, that shows multiple weeks of topics fitting on a single page. There were no trolls, but there were also hardly any people at all.

Not that I wouldn't be for stricter rules, particularly against low effort posts.

The point is, that nascent stage reflected the vision for the forums.  The current stage is a lesson in unintended consequences. 

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Lord_Hammer wrote:
Typewriter44 wrote:

Both of you are acting like clowns, making fools out of yourselves for entertainment

Fair point

Yes, but are they real clowns or just two people dressed up like clowns?

Hey c’mon that’s funny. Can i get an upvote? 

Here I’ll do it myself.

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My self esteem is in a much better place now. 

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I just wanted to cross-link a relevant thread from 2017 that someone had dug up:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/suggestions/an-idea-to-revolutionize-the-forums

Lest anyone considers this or that pure trolling please read the first two sentences:

I would be very happy if you guys introduced an Upvote/Downvote button like Reddit. You don't have to order the comments based on popularity or anything like that, that would destroy the forums.

Even some proponents of anonymous voting for posts are aware of the dangers of trying to confuse popularity with relevance.

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llama47 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
batgirl wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

 

I remember when live chess was new.

The beginnings of Daily Chess:




The beginnings of Live Chess:
Sept 29, 2009

 

 

Yup. I joined Nov 2007.

For awhile I was very near the top on the Endless Quiz. I lost interest when I found multiple duplicate questions submitted by different users, and a large number of questions composed out of ignorance.

I remember clicking on that once. One of the first questions was "there is an opening called the cole"

I answered "false" because it's colle (with two ls). It counted me wrong, so I thought oh, it's just a bunch of kids making silly questions, and I never went back.

 

I answered a lot of questions and created many, too. A couple of the people above me in the standings got there creating more questions than I did, and they weren’t all kids. One in particular created a large number of questions of dubious quality. IIRC, he’s well-known.

I vaguely recall the ability to vote down bad questions, or some other way to note they were bad. It became the main thing I did after awhile and I lost interest.

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Ziryab wrote:
llama47 wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
batgirl wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

 

I remember when live chess was new.

The beginnings of Daily Chess:




The beginnings of Live Chess:
Sept 29, 2009

 

 

Yup. I joined Nov 2007.

For awhile I was very near the top on the Endless Quiz. I lost interest when I found multiple duplicate questions submitted by different users, and a large number of questions composed out of ignorance.

I remember clicking on that once. One of the first questions was "there is an opening called the cole"

I answered "false" because it's colle (with two ls). It counted me wrong, so I thought oh, it's just a bunch of kids making silly questions, and I never went back.

 

I answered a lot of questions and created many, too. A couple of the people above me in the standings got there creating more questions than I did, and they weren’t all kids. One in particular created a large number of questions of dubious quality. IIRC, he’s well-known.

I vaguely recall the ability to vote down bad questions, or some other way to note they were bad. It became the main thing I did after awhile and I lost interest.

Ah, I vaguely recall that now too, I think you're right (voting down bad questions).