Vacations

Why should a player be allowed to vacate after each move?Especially when he or she has many games and cant keep up with one.

Hi I guess it is occasionally reasonable if you are very busy, although can be annoying for the other player - especially now everyone has smartphones etc - it can hardly be that difficult to continue a game when you're away.  There is the option to set tournaments to not allow vacations - wish I had done that for the one I started recently :)

Yucca thanks,just wondering why some players make a move and its 3 or 4 more  days before they make another.Vacations is great but stalling for no good reason is like a wishfull draw or resignation.

A player has a certain amount of vacation days in his reserve and he can unilaterally use them as he sees fit.  There is a new thread started on this same topic about every week. 

I appreciate the vacations and players need them for  viable reasons.However it becomes obvious when lower ranked as myself and some opponets are competing after each move vacate its obstruction not gamemanship.As a beginner Im a little less likely to support a 3 week turn around on a move.Maybe a monitor of such would curtail this tactic.Why post 1.2 or 3 days otherwise when its vagrant.Could a draw be more self satisfying than a lost?How a bout a resignataion?

I wonder if there's some kind of rule that could be set up automatically to stop stalling - can you think of a formula that would determine it?  Personally I try and stick to non-vacation tournaments now and this isn't an issue in those.  I also find it more motivating to play in a tournament.

You always find players who will defend to the death their right to use vacation anyway they like, and deny that abuse exists.

I think vacation as introduced to help deal with genuine upheaval or crises, and not to give you an out if you just dont want to do something you have commited to by accepting a game.

I think vacation should be limited to one occurence per week. If you have more crises than that, you probably shouldn't be spending your time playing chess anyway.

I've seen people going on and off vacation 3 times per day, how on earth is that not abuse?

Thanks to all for the comments,sorry to be a beginner and complainer but 3 weeks into 1 game is about all i can stand.I realize that Im not the only one who realizes the dilema.At least Im learning.Thanks again for allowing me to play and the support.Good morn or even night to all.Winning isnt everything but fun is and sometimes we even win.Now how do you play no vacation games?

There's an option if you start a tournament.

I'm not sure if you can designate one off games as no vacation, most of my games are no vacation tournaments.

As unpaid member you are limited to only one non-official tournment, I think. I believe free members should only enter non vacation tourneys, as others can last for years(!) sometimes, and you cant enter another before that's complete. There are many +-12 player non vacation tourneys, 1 day per move which complete in bout a month

Try some of these:

http://www.chess.com/tournament/bigdukes-groups-of-6-5-1300---1600

http://www.chess.com/tournament/curiositys-descent-to-the-martian-surface

http://www.chess.com/tournament/extremely-fast-players-with-low-time-outs

Is that really possible ? I thought the minimum time for each vacation is one day (i.e. each time you start a vacation, you spend 24 full hours of vacation credit). So if they do it three times a day, they spend their vacation credit three times faster.

But maybe this does not apply to paying members...

The objective of vacation is (IMO) not so much to cope with crisis as holidays breaks where one has no access to the Internet (yeah, there are places like that). And the rule mentioned before would prevent any abuse.

Yeah, that  24 hour thing is a fairly recent change, maybe a year. Not possible anymore, but I tried to show that if possible people WILL abuse it.

One tournament I'm in is vacation allowed, and my opponent still has 16 days left, so I'm still waiting for him to make a move.

I'm in a similar situation Owlmoon and I am actually TD, so I could boot the player out, but obv. not going to do that, as it was my own stupid fault for not setting the tourney to no vacations, well just not thinking it through when I set it up  Personally think all tournaments should be no vacations.  I can't think there are many situations where you wouldn't want that.

He has 16 days of vacation and 11 days to move. This will take a while if he doesn't go online soon.

Indeed, but then he won't do it again for the next year at least, because he would have spoiled his vacation time for futilities.

This might be abuse, but the current system prevents users from using it too much.

Maybe you think there is too much vacation, but some of my (real) friends complain that the vacation time allowed on chess.com is not enough for their regular vacation (Xmas break : 1-2 weeks + summer holidays 1 month + French holidays in april 2 weeks) to allow them to hold games during summertime. I'm not sure there is much room for improvement.

My employer gives me 6 weeks vacation time per year as I have been there 18 years.  Of course I am not asking for that much here but there are always times when you have to go away.  If you play here are you supposed to have no outside life?  No vacation tournaments really mess with real life commitments.  I played one before and it was a real stress, not because I planned to go anywhere but there was a time some years back where I spent a month in hospital.  If I had to be readmitted I would be penalised.  Any site which "rates" its members on performance would lose members if it did not allow them normal life flexibility.  So many comments here are not well thought out.

I have never used my vacation time, as I have never needed it yet.