Want to build a computer to analyse my games

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Hell everyone, I'm looking to build a computer for chess analysis (and maybe some game with a nice video card, that will be a phase 2). I looked at the following link from 3 years ago: 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/best-cpu-for-chess-engine-game-analysis

Basically, IM Pfren suggested an AMD 8 core. I'm looking at the following two below:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YUF6/ref=psdc_229189_t2_B009O7YU56

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FX-8370-Processor-4300Mhz-FD8370FRHKBOX/dp/B00MUTWELC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1456084680&sr=8-3&keywords=FX-8350

There is also this 10 core: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Octa-core-FX-8370-Processor-FD8370FRHKHBX/dp/B01798X7D2/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1456084680&sr=8-5&keywords=FX-8350

Anyway, my question is... Are these still good for a decent analysis engine? Is there anything better right now for around the same price? will going from 8 cores to 10 cores be much of a performance difference, or am I better off going 8cores at 4.3GHZ?

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My rating is like 1300
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1550

Avatar of LearnHard

You don't really need a lot of horsepower to interpret a chess game with a computer at our level (I'm not much above you). I do most of my after game analysis with my travel netbook while sitting on my couch. ASUS 1.33 GHz Intel Atom and only 2 GB of memory (Cost a little more than $200).  I use StockFish and Scid vs PC primarily.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OBA5AZU

This not to say you can't spend more. But if analyzing 1550 level games is your only goal, any new computer will be just fine. I have more serious computer in my home office an i7 processor, 32 GB meory and multiple screens use for coding and compiling.

But for me, sitting on my couch with my dog is more important than saving a couple seconds per move when analysing a game. And a few seconds per move is the only advantage you will likely get from the faster processor.

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The problem I am having is this... I downloaded the newest stockfish, and tried using it with fritz 11. the Kn/S is 2000, whereas when I use houdini 1.5a, i get 4000-5000 Kn/S. I have 8GB of RAM. I am currently using an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8500 3.16 Ghz with Windows 7 Pro.

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LearnHard wrote:

But for me, sitting on my couch with my dog is more important than saving a couple seconds per move when analysing a game. And a few seconds per move is the only advantage you will likely get from the faster processor.

I get the best of both worlds:  I have Fritz (using the Stockfish Engine).  I have it running on my desktop that has a really good i7 processor.  I use Chessbases's engine cloud and can use the engine on my laptop or tablet anywhere in the house or if I am out as long as I have internet access. I use less of my Laptops or Tablets battery, while getting a deeper analysis with the engine running on my desktop.... while being able to sit on the couch or even go out in the back yard...

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vinn625 wrote:

The problem I am having is this... I downloaded the newest stockfish, and tried using it with fritz 11. the Kn/S is 2000, whereas when I use houdini 1.5a, i get 4000-5000 Kn/S. I have 8GB of RAM. I am currently using an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU E8500 3.16 Ghz with Windows 7 Pro.

In general, you shouldn't worry too much about node count. However, I should point out that Houdini 1.5a defaults to 8 threads, while Stockfish 7 defaults to 1 thread. So IF you're going to compare node count, you need to set the engines to the same number of threads.

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If u are not planning to play correspondence chess, dont overspend on processor. Buy the best graphics card u can afford for ur gaming. See www.tomshardware.com for best value for money on cpu, graphics cards. Entry level mobo n 8 GB Ram will do.

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Depends on budget.  I wouldn't touch AMD with a 10-foot pole if you're trying to maximize engine strength.

That said, the average person doesn't need a beast mode PC to help them analyze a game with an engine.

A 6600K overclocked will give you plenty of bang for the buck.

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Also, only use physical cores not hyperthreaded cores when setting up your your engine.

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thanks for all of the help everyone.