Was Bobby Fischer brilliant? Or an idiot....

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eciruam
louie_grenouille wrote:

Jews are not chosen by God, they killed God's only son! They're all going to hell for it.  Most greedy frauding bankers are jews by the way, but everybody already knows this.

Are you channeling Bobby's ghost ? LOL

premio53
eciruam wrote:
incantevoleutopia wrote:
premio53 wrote:
pilotk9 wrote:

Who does like Jews?

I like Jews.  I believe they are God's chosen people.  A race set aside by God.  I'm not Jewish.

Bravo, thanks to this kind of sh1t Hitler started wwII, he also thought germans were the chosen people

A race set aside by God ?

Swept under the carpet, more likely.

HE sure looked after his "chosen" people well during World War 2

Or was that some kind of test ?

I sure hope God doesn't choose me for anything.

I wonder what HE does to people HE doesn't "choose"

For 2500 years the Jews had no home to call their own until May 14, 1948.  The Old Testament prohesied that they would one day become a nation again.  In 1909 C.I. Scofield wrote a reference Bible and his notes on Ezekiel 34:8 and 38:2 predicted the regathering of Israel and that in the last days a coalition of nations headed up by Russia would eventually come against the newly formed nation. 

When Scofield wrote that in 1909 (many years before Israel rose from the dead) Russia was an Orthodox Christian nation and he was  mocked for saying what he did.  Fulfilled prophecies are the ultimate proof that the Bible is true.

eciruam

Come back Bobby, all is forgiven.

lebid

Churchill has a lot to answere for in relation to WW2.He goaded Hitler since 1934 to attack Britain when it was plainly stated by Hitler that he admired Britain and had no intention of waring with Britain.Hitler's main brief was to stem the spread of communism.Thus he was preparing to attack Russia in the 1940's and was hoping that Britain would assist him.He was also eager to reverse many aspects of the Versailes treaty.He viewed communism as being inspired by jews and he wished jews to vacate Germany.

We now know that Chuchill was supported,from the early 1930's, by a secret group called the Focus which gave him political direction and financial backing.This group had many influential Jewish figures as prominant members...eg Dr. Chaim Weizmann who was to become Israil's first president.Prior to the early 1930's,Churchill was anti-communist.

ANOK1

lebid it is true in England and its Monarchy ,Hitler saw a possible ally ,this did not stop his Gestapo and Abhwer building files of info and logistical maps in preparation to claim England too

I see in Churchill one of priviliged upbringing he would appeal to Hitler certainly Mosley did ,thankfully post 1945 Clement Attlee won an overwhelming majority

RG1951
wolverine96 wrote:
incantevoleutopia wrote:
premio53 wrote:
pilotk9 wrote:

Who does like Jews?

I like Jews.  I believe they are God's chosen people.  A race set aside by God.  I'm not Jewish.

Bravo, thanks to this kind of sh1t Hitler started wwII, he also thought germans were the chosen people

Not quite. The Jews are the sons of Abraham, and God made a covenant with all of Abraham's decendant's through Isaac. Hitler claimed that the Germans had evolved into a superior race, and he wanted to kill all non-Germans. There is a difference.

        "wanted to kill all non Germans" ? No, he didn't. Quite apart from anything else, it would have been absurdly impractical to attempt it.

RG1951
Rkane275 wrote:

lebid it is true in England and its Monarchy ,Hitler saw a possible ally ,this did not stop his Gestapo and Abhwer building files of info and logistical maps in preparation to claim England too

I see in Churchill one of priviliged upbringing he would appeal to Hitler certainly Mosley did ,thankfully post 1945 Clement Attlee won an overwhelming majority

        The Germans never came close to formulating practical plans to invade Britain. They knew that after their failure in the Battle Of Britain, which was designed to bring Britain to the negotiating table, they would not be able to get accross the Channel with the Royal Navy and the RAF waiting. Also, the presence in Britain of hundreds of thousands of American servicemen in 1943 and 1944 would have represented something of a restraint upon the Germans.

wolverine96

        "wanted to kill all non Germans" ? No, he didn't. Quite apart from anything else, it would have been absurdly impractical to attempt it.

True, it wasn't possible, but that was his ultimate goal. What else could it be if he was preaching that Germans were better and stronger than any other race? He even turned against his former ally, Russia.

wolverine96

Here's a quote:

"Blood mixture and the result drop in the racial level is the sole cause of the dying out of old cultures; for men do not perish as a result of lost wars, but by the loss of that force of resistance which is continued only in pure blood. All who are not of good race in this world are chaff."

-Adolf Hitler

Source

RG1951
wolverine96 wrote:

        "wanted to kill all non Germans" ? No, he didn't. Quite apart from anything else, it would have been absurdly impractical to attempt it.

True, it wasn't possible, but that was his ultimate goal. What else could it be if he was preaching that Germans were better and stronger than any other race? He even turned against his former ally, Russia.

        He had hostile intentions to the Russians from the outset - they were never regarded as friends - and believing your own people to be superior to others does not mean that you wish to exterminate all others.


 

sirrichardburton

Before reading this threat i would had thought that nazi or neo-nazi thinking was a thing of the past.Of course Hitler had a core hatred of both Jews and communists,to him they were one of the same.But in addition to this hatred he also wanted to eventually conquer the world. He thought he was chosen to return Germany to greatness. Instead over 50 million people died in WW2. He even wanted the German troops fighting in Russia to continue fighting to the last man when they were surrounded and defeated. Hitler didn't care about anyone or anything except himself. He was both insaine and evil.

eciruam

So, have we finished with Bobby and moved on to History lessons ?

The poster who mentioned the J-word must be pissing himself laughing.

Throw some blood into the water and wait..........

eciruam
louie_grenouille wrote:

Bobby Fischer didn't like jews.

Nice one louie

eciruam
eciruam wrote:
louie_grenouille wrote:

Jews are not chosen by God, they killed God's only son! They're all going to hell for it.  Most greedy frauding bankers are jews by the way, but everybody already knows this.

Are you channeling Bobby's ghost ? LOL

TheGreatOogieBoogie

Depends.  He played the game of the century and had some amazing exchange sacs (like that one for an unstoppable outside passed pawn) but also threw away a drawn endgame against Spassky! 

eciruam

Yeah, maybe he wasn't so brilliant after all Surprised

skullyvick

Met him many times in the Pasadena Main Library on Walnut. Robert James Fischer was CRAZY like a fox. All of his antics were for effect and attention. He knew what he was doing. Brilliant? Yes but not by todays standards with computer analysis and with Bobby's and many other GM"s contributions that have mapped the openings, the tactics and the stradegies. As he said, "the game has been ruined by technology"... but it's fun to play with friends and grandkids. And maybe for Grand Master's to eek out the last bits of brilliant combinations for computer software to log and incorporate into their digital cortex.

skullyvick

This actually happened only adding more drama to the already dramatic BS he was doing to get attention. The Armstrong's really screwed over a gullible genius searching for a religious connection. He actually listened and believed their BS... for awhile! But think about it, once you become World Champion by troucning the competition like he did, what else is there to prove? After all the great moves have been made and logged where does chess go? Bobby just participated in the logging process and was really good at it I might add!!

sirrichardburton

Back to Fischer..... my view is that he was a genius who drove himself so hard to become world champion that he was unable to cope with mental problems when they started to develop. I think the u.s. goverment made thing worst by imposing sanctions on the first really high money match he ever had. In effect he was made an outlaw for playing a chess match. Although he showed signs of paranoidia for many years he seemed to get much worst after this. Many of the people who knew him well said he could be charming and kind as long as nothing offended him.

TheAdultProdigy
Gunz-N-Guitarz wrote:

I'm curious of everyone's opinion of the late great Bobby Fischer. Was he a spoiled, self-absorbed moron? Or was he pure genius? What's your opinion? Go!

First, there's no such thing as a genius, unless you've got some definition that is contrary to the popular notion.  Second, it's not a matter of bivalence.  There are plenty of people, especially chess players, mathematicians, and similar analytically-minded people who are deemed brilliant, but who are emotionally retarded, aesthetically stupid, and practically incapable.