Was Bobby Fischer brilliant? Or an idiot....

People with IQs before there was a such thing, nor had to be so inconvenienced as to take an exam?  Interdasting.

Maybe you should look into what the IQ test was designed to do, and compare that with what foolish people have taken its results to represent.

  Hello,

           When it comes to 1) success and 2) happiness, IQ is virtually a non-predictative statistic.  EQ, Emotional-Quotient on the other hand correlates strongly positive with both.  Robert James Fischer had a monstrous chess IQ (300?) and perhaps a 9 or 10 EQ.  He was a mess in every other arena of life except chess . . . and that disfunctionality led to him grossly messing up the only area in which he could find a smidgen of happiness:  chess.  Very, very sad.

Bob

I don't understand the question, or rather, do not agree with it.
Fischer would have been the same crazy even if he was a plumber.

That talk about IQ and EQ makes no sense, since Fischer took neither.

        I may be wrong, but my understanding is that an IQ of 150 and better is genius level. I cannot see that it is right to assert that there is no such thing as a genius.

Any source that states an IQ score for men who never took IQ tests (and indeed, many on this list were long dead before IQ was even a thing) should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

One doesn't have to come from a privledged background to be spoiled. Bobby most definately acted like a spoiled child at times.

Shaken, not stirred (the salt that is).

                STOP  THE  HATE 

Good man Reb! Luv dem pigs too!

Has anyone ever had latte with him ? If not, than pleez don't badmouth a dead person who never was convicted of any crime whatsoever.

I have heard some things he said....no not in transcript, but on taped tv from yesteryear. And yes, he seemed to talk like a jerk now and again to reporters. But, he wasn't talking to me - and so I'll judge him as such.

I hate to point out the obvious, but it is comically meaningless to assign IQs to geniuses. I rather assume that Fischer and Mozart and Newton and etc. are orders of magnitude more brilliant than any mediocre putz who writes IQ tests and is foolish enough to take them so seriously.

That depends on the IQ test as well.
The problem is that most people think that what you see on the internet (some sort of stupid quiz) is real.
I've had a serious accident when I was 10 years old, and it left me with some temporal damage in my brain, including partial amnesia, migraines, black outs, and such.
Because of this, I've had to spend weeks every year in this 'neurology station' (my English isn't the brightest), and I had to take actual IQ tests, the ones that actually take about 3 hours or even more, include drawing, playing on instruments, and even talking with an actual psychologist while your facial expressions and such are recorded and later analysed.
I'm pretty sure you can take IQ tests seriously if they're actual professional tests.
But I agree, there's still no proof that it's linked to chess.
I think it's the same as musical talent.

Nigel short would agree his field is actually music and he did say guest71 games with him was like a virtuoso . In a way it was. You know. History says nero fiddled while rome burned. And guest71 sure fiddled around with nigel! I bet after that musical expierance nigel needed a new tuning fork for his brain waves. Alpha. And bata.. ha ha ha

All joklng aside I agree with you about that besides true genius is not equated to just one thing. True genius can and do excel in everything they do. They learn ve ry fast and are able to apply it right away.as for bobby I went very deep in his game and found a couple where he actually looked like he had a losing position. He sacraficed 2 power pieces and being two pieces down overpowered his oppenant and mated him. He did this with white and black. I came away with a new perspective on him. I have to saw he was brillant! But I did not like his. Manners. Me I am a clown. But I never insult other players make big diruptions at tournament. Chess is supposed to be a social game. Not a crazy house. Sorry he was goofy!

Name me a person who is not stupid at something.

For his stupidity, Fischer picked "ability to keep a trap door shut".

Love him or hate him i think we can all agree he made things intesting!

I can believe that a person like Fischer could have a higher IQ than Einstein. Chess requires a broad range of mental abilities to master, and even when you master it, you're up against other masters, so to rise to the top demands a lot of mental abilities all brought to the fold. Einstein had the ability to sit down and deliberate as long as he needed to on his various works. Fischer didn't have that luxury. He had a set deadline every time he sat down, because the clock was ticking. So it seems logical that Fischer had to possess very sharp on-the-spot decision making abilities in order to get ahead, something Einstein didn't have to concern himself with as much.

...and then Fischer lost his mind...

He just took up another hobby, trolling the peeps.

I like reading B. Fischer threads, because you never know where it is going to go??? And some posters really go out of there way to making a good and often interesting comment. So what can I say in  alomst one sentence and not take much time out of what I was doing or have to do, so here it is......

Most of us that play chess and have played in tournaments some times a few days long, makes me wonder how well Bobby was able to sleep, I remember seeing games play out in my sleep, and I never got a good sleep during chess playing, I hope he slept good, he did it all his life????