We bought John Bartholomew!

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AnuJoesph

"I signed an awesome contract with Chess.com that may very well allow me to be a full-time chess streamer. I can still record a bit on [another site] as of now, but eventually 100% of my recorded/streaming play will be on Chess.com. I know a lot of you guys will be disappointed that I won't be recording [another site]'s arenas and whatnot. [Another site] is a fantastic gift to the chess community, and I have only positive things to say about them. Please know that I didn't make this decision lightly! Ultimately Chess.com offered me a career-changing opportunity I don't think any other site can match, and I'm really excited to be a part of their push to professionalize chess (especially when it comes to streaming). I'll still be producing as much of the same content as ever, just on Chess.com."

                                                                                                  - John Bartholomew

 

Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQUtKEvIHHg

LouStule
Where did you get this please? Source?
Nino_98

@LouStule Look for the video "chess 960 match vs GM John Ludwig Hammer" In the comment section there's a comment that asks him whether he won't be recording on the other site anymore, to which OP's comment is the reply.

Nino_98

I am personally very happy for John, and if he still plays slower time controls here, I don't personally mind the contract. However I think it's ridiculous that chesscom forbids players to ay on other sites. Just a ridiculous typical business move without class. I mean, is chesscom really that scared of publicity for other sites? If you're scared of losing players to these sites, you need to make a better site yourself, not pretend the other ones don't exist.

Hanayaman
Nino_98 wrote:

I am personally very happy for John, and if he still plays slower time controls here, I don't personally mind the contract. However I think it's ridiculous that chesscom forbids players to ay on other sites. Just a ridiculous typical business move without class. I mean, is chesscom really that scared of publicity for other sites? If you're scared of losing players to these sites, you need to make a better site yourself, not pretend the other ones don't exist.

 

You started by saying you don't mind the contract, but then you criticize the only thing that would make it mean anything. What is the point of having someone contracted to work for you if they're going to work for your competitor too.

Nino_98
Hanayaman wrote:
Nino_98 wrote:

I am personally very happy for John, and if he still plays slower time controls here, I don't personally mind the contract. However I think it's ridiculous that chesscom forbids players to ay on other sites. Just a ridiculous typical business move without class. I mean, is chesscom really that scared of publicity for other sites? If you're scared of losing players to these sites, you need to make a better site yourself, not pretend the other ones don't exist.

 

You started by saying you don't mind the contract, but then you criticize the only thing that would make it mean anything. What is the point of having someone contracted to work for you if they're going to work for your competitor too.

I don't PERSONALLY mind the contract, in the sense that I will not suffer from it, but that doesn't mean that I think what chess.com does with their contracts is acceptable. They're paying people to play for chesscom, not to stop playing on other sites. The point being that there will be more good quality content on chesscom. It's just that chesscom thinks it can get away with most bs because they're the biggest site anyway. Again, it's not reasonable to pay people to stop playing on another website, and if other sites can provide free stuff that chesscom cant compete against, they need to start thinking of new ideas to improve their site.

 

They're not competing with chesscom in any form. They're a completely non-profit and open source website.

Nino_98

Hanayaman wrote:

Nino_98 wrote:

I am personally very happy for John, and if he still plays slower time controls here, I don't personally mind the contract. However I think it's ridiculous that chesscom forbids players to ay on other sites. Just a ridiculous typical business move without class. I mean, is chesscom really that scared of publicity for other sites? If you're scared of losing players to these sites, you need to make a better site yourself, not pretend the other ones don't exist.

 

You started by saying you don't mind the contract, but then you criticize the only thing that would make it mean anything. What is the point of having someone contracted to work for you if they're going to work for your competitor too.

The cr@ppy functionality of forums on here is a prime example of why they need to focus on improving instead of banning.

Nino_98

Literally the only thing chesscom has going for it right now is the number of players. Which is probably why they're desperately trying to change this site into the North Korea of chess

LouStule
Good for the rest of us. I learn a lot from JB
SeniorPatzer

How much money can you make doing content for chess.com?

AnuJoesph
LouStule wrote:
Where did you get this please? Source?

I've added the source in the original post now.

LouStule
Thanks
Goram

I know the name from reddit, some people often spam there with his activities.

chesskidABC

John is the best! It doesn't matter whether he is playing on chess.com or elsewhere, at least he is now streaming chess wink.png

SillyChessMoves

SeniorPatzer wrote:

How much money can you make doing content for chess.com?

Enough to take time out of his coaching I'd guess. He's pretty popular so I imagine he can charge a lot for his service, I would charge a good amount if I was him anyway. So it must at least be worth more than whatever that brings in.

dannyhume
What about Chessable?
Former_mod_david

I'm not familiar with the circumstances around this, but I think some people are making assumptions about what is in this contract. From the quote above:

I can still record a bit on [another site] as of now, but eventually 100% of my recorded/streaming play will be on Chess.com.

In other words, his contract clearly does NOT forbid him from playing on other sites.

Equally obviously, Chess.com is not paying him to stream from other chess sites, so John is choosing to go with the site that IS paying him and giving him a "career-changing opportunity"; he says that he is 

really excited to be a part of their push to professionalize chess (especially when it comes to streaming). I'll still be producing as much of the same content as ever, just on Chess.com

I would actually suggest that because Chess.com is paying him for stuff he was previously not being paid as much for, that he will be able to start producing even better content, attracting more people to the game and helping grow the overall market for Chess.

TDF
If it’s good for John then good for him. That guy has a lot of integrity, class, and offers great content. He deserves it.
DanielGuel

I'm pumped up!!!

ESP-918

They bought Ben Finegold as well ...