Weak Players

I dont understand people who play over 10 000 or 5 000 games here, and they are still 1200, 1300 or 1400 ?? Why they play chess if they dont improve ? What is the point ? Are they so unintrested for chess or.... ? What is the point ? People are here 7 8 years playing actively and they are still 1200 ? 

So why do you play at 1600? Why u no GM yet? Whats the point?

I am here for a half year. I would be ashamed if I dont be about 2000 in three, four or five years. The point of this forum is clear. Read it again, before you answer this post :)

I've played almost 20,000 games of 5 minute blitz. I play for the fun. I just really enjoy it. I use it as a barometer to how clearly I'm thinking and how limber my mind is on any given day and my ELO fluctuates a lot because I play even when I'm tired or stressed, again because it's a fun challenge and my goals are different than a serious competitor's who may be trying to improve or hang onto a a rating. What I enjoy is seeing my strength gradually improve without studying. Just from playing and practicing. I could obviously get better through a concerted effort but I have a bunch of hobbies and other obligations that require enough study as it is. So this is just a pastime, an exercise, a habit.   I drink coffee every morning too, so I don't know why I don't buy bat guano laced coffee beans or grow my own blend and have a culinary degree with a major in gourmet caffinated beverages either.  And given the number of times I've used the toilet, I'm surprised I didn't invent the squatty potty product.

Ok I answer you directly. We all play for having a little fun. 

Some may be willing to learn and improve more than others, but all players should be respected. Calling lower ranked players stupid an wondering what the point of them playing is, is pompous and mean.

You just called him pompous and mean, but the Beatle's said "For well you know that it's a fool who plays it cool by making his world a little colder". So I think you just called him a fool.

some people play for fun, some people train to play better, some people learn from their mistakes, some people do not care to, some people play fast, others do not.  to each their own...

Former Tennessee state champion (1969) James Sweets told me one time that some players are nothing but class C players and that is all they will ever be.  It's a hard fact of life to realize that everyone is not equal in ability in most areas of life.  Chess being one of them. 

There are actually some who have posted here that anyone can become a titled player if they just put enough time and effort into it.  That is a lie.

idk kid why are you still 1300 and 1200 in blitz and bullet, you are only 1600 kid don't get on your high horse. 

I write code and develop apps. That's where I seriously study. And when doing home improvement, or gardening, or designing and building something - those are the kinds things I study, read up on, focus and methodically analyze.  I've never been able to take chess seriously enough on some level to apply the same kind of learning to it. I've just wanted to simply play. If I improve organically that way, that's fine. Just learning by experience and seeing more. I understand I could empower myself by standing on the shoulders of giants and learning from prior art and even get coaching, but that wouldn't leave as much time for me to focus on things that are also rewarding or even have some monetary value to me.  Part of it too is that I don't have a temperment of consistency. My moods and strengths and priorities are more mercurical than is required to be a consistent chess player. The same thing that provides flexibility and insights in some ways is a liability in others. That's life. Tradeoffs. More than enough tradeoffs.

I know people in my former chess club who have played in serious tournaments for over 30 years and despite their best efforts have never gotten past Class C. 

If someone really has any talent, it will show no matter how busy they claim to be.

'Talent'? That's presumptuous. And how do things like interest and priority and motivation factor into it? Einstein was a genius. Zero doubt he had a great deal of potential talent for many many things he never applied himself to or immersed himself in. For all you know, Einstein might have had the potential to be one of the greatest chess players who ever lived. And you could probably be even better at chess than you are if it was a higher priority and consumed you more than it does now.  

This is my experience too .  I first joined a club in 1973 and the best player was over 2000 and he was club champion but he hardly ever came to the club .  After him the best players were a couple of A class players and a bunch of B and C class players and the rest were below them . When I started I couldnt beat anyone there and lost all my early games . Some of them had already been playing for decades and it took me some years but I eventually became the strongest player in the club and still those class players were still class players .  I think their biggest problem was simply that they were content with the level they had reached and had no chess goals that they were chasing .... which is fine . I clearly remember that my first chess goal was to get better than a certain very annoying/arrogant B class player in the club !  

Possibly. Some talent is needed to go beyond a certain point. But the thing is, most people don't really put in the kind of work that is really needed to get better. It isn't easy and it takes a lot of time; though it may take less time and/or be easier if you have talent (aka a mind that is geared towards the skills that chess uses).

It seems you can only really improve if you're a kid.

I make only one blunder on a game and I still lose by that blunder and in real life i am 1300 fqe rated = 1450 uscf but here im only almost below 1000 in blitz. I know the theory, the patterns but how to make less blunders in a 10min blitz game ty

I've played off and on for nearly forty years. In that time, my rating has consistently been between 1300 and 1600. Every now and again, I'll read or hear someone saying, "How come someone can't improve more! What is wrong with them?" To which I reply, "I enjoy the game, I don't have a lot of time to get much better and for the love of all that is holy, stop trying to harsh my mellow, man." Sometimes, I'll add buzz off.

I think success is mostly a matter of ambition.  The people who want something so much that they are willing to make whatever sacrifices are required to achieve their goal are usually the ones who rise to the top in any field, in my experience.

Many players are satisfied with their current level or would simply rather play chess for relaxation than put in hours of hard work every day, especially after a full day of work and whatever other commitments they have.

Many reasons...

For some its just a game

For some its a way of passing the time

For some like myself, its something to do at lunch

For some, improvement at chess isnt important, they just want to play

I used to love to play Operation.  It didnt mean i wanted to be a doctor. 

"Too much Blitz rots the brain" - Socrates