Weird Draw Offers

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mohan9048

All,

I can give draw to an opponent who is clearly a victim of mouse slip. However, when stoung opponents such as this offer a draw when it is clearly a win for me, it does not feel good. In below game, I got draw offer from black on move 53.


Note that I have myself made such silly draw offers instinctively.

-M

FancyKnight

37. Qc8#

Also a win at move 53 is not clear at all.

Casual_Joe
FancyKnight wrote:

37. Qc8#

Also a win at move 53 is not clear at all.

I agree completely -- there's nothing weird about that draw offer. 

KingInTheNorth77

There is NOTHING weird about that at all

macer75

Imo a draw offer is only "weird" when it's offerred by the winning side. It's fiarly common for someone who's about to lose to offer a draw as a final act of desperation, especially among lower-rated players.

JagdeepSingh

In my opinion this was a draw.  How is it at move 53 you are clearly winning?  You won because your opponent blundered in move 55.  He should have kept his Queen & kept giving checks & making sure that you cannot defend & giving a check at the same time.

mohan9048

I think I got the answer I was looking for. Thanks to all responders. 

DrStrangeLuft

You missed a win on move 51 when Qg3+ would forced a queen trade (instead of Qe6).

badger_song

Good for you to offer a draw for mouse slips.

MSC157
macer75 wrote:

Imo a draw offer is only "weird" when it's offerred by the winning side. It's fiarly common for someone who's about to lose to offer a draw as a final act of desperation, especially among lower-rated players.

+1

KantTouchThis

How do you shoot if you don't draw?

ivandh

I'd rather be a dead coward than a live hero. Er, I mean...

MSC157

Worth a pizza then.

mohan9048
badger_song wrote:

Good for you to offer a draw for mouse slips.

There are many players who would do this. Once, chess.com started 2 blitz games for me by mistake. I explained the situation and one of the players gave me a draw even though he was much higher rated and was loosing points from a draw. I gave him a trophy for sportiveness. The other corcky player (also higher rated but not as much as the other player) whom I had asked a draw first, had refused. I ended up beating him. This is what they call karma in the east and poitic justice in the west.

Ubik42

I spoil any chance at a mouse slip draw offer because my habit, after a slip, is to chat "I am surprised you accepted that sacrifice! Now watch THIS!"

...while I desperaetly look for some face saving way to avoid losing immediately.

Puanli_Heyecan

If it is a tournament game and if the game result changes nothing and if the opponent looks like a nice person, then may be I can accept the draw. 

Otherwise, well... , it depends on my mood Tongue Out

youngrema
JagdeepSingh wrote:

In my opinion this was a draw.  How is it at move 53 you are clearly winning?  You won because your opponent blundered in move 55.  He should have kept his Queen & kept giving checks & making sure that you cannot defend & giving a check at the same time.

move 55? it's a check and if black doesn't play the move he made then he loses his queen... not a blunder

JagdeepSingh

I am just making BAD BLUNDERS.  Ignore me.

IQ_Lackov

I have offered a draw in the past when i was winning in a tournament game which I had no chance of progressing in. i felt it would be better to end the game early and allow the others to contest the next stage of the tournament so by what other posters above are saying that makes it a weird offer?

Gil-Gandel

I'm with those who say that if the ending looks like it's hard to win, and your opponent missed an easy mate in 1 earlier, offer away. Ideally though, don't blunder a move later and make it look like the offer was weird.