Were the '60's in the '60's ?

Jackie Gleason breaking his leg; now that was TV!

(RJC) The Grateful Dead had, "U.S.Blues".  Whenever the commander was coming around

I just heard US Blues on youtube - never heard it before.....That song is AWESOME !....almost like boogie woogie....Thanks !

Who's the commander ?

                Red Schleton, Milton Berle, they made our parents laugh a lot in the 60's

Anyone remember Red Skelton getting censored and pulled from the air that night when he cracked an off-color joke about haircuts in his opening monologue?  They ran some commercials then played a movie, but he was back next week.

                Our commander was Captain Numnuts, or Colonel piss-off. That tune is on the album, "From The Mars Hotel". Excellent cover picture on the front. Well Thank You Lola, happy to hear I did something for someone today.  The lyrics in that tune strike at the establishment. Gerry Garcia surprissingly got an Honorable Discharge from the Army.

             Red Skelton; classic example of pushing the envelope. Who was the commedian that got arrested for profanity in the 60's??

RJC

Lenny Bruce, and who was watching NBC when the Heidi game was played?  I was, I was.

              YES, Lenny Bruce. They made a big to do about nothing, but that was the 60's. Later, in the 70's George Carlin came along with, "The 7 words You CAN'T Say On TV".  There was some books that were contravercial too in the 60's. "The Anachist's Bible", "Banned In Boston", "The Catcher In The Rye"--i think.

Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, "one small step", Billy Jack (Tom Laughlin just died last December), Fail Safe, Dr. Stranglove, Twiggy, "Bond, James Bond", Ursula Andress, Raquel Welch, Tina Turner, the Plain of Jars, USS Pueblo, USS Forrestal (aka USS Forest Fire), USS Thresher, USS Scorpion, LBJ (or, as the Latinos called him, el BJ), the Weathermen, the Merry Pranksters.

After some research last nite, a person could use the band The Grateful Dead as benchmarks for the so-called 60's time period. Was the counterculture started in England or the USA ?....And where ?....Haight Ashbury district ?....Greenwich Village ? If HA, then this band's height of creativity was from 1965 to about 1975....(sidenote: I read the song Shakedown Street (1978) is 'Disco Dead"). If GV, then maybe Bob Dylan's summer of '65 release "Like a Rolling Stone" pins it down....then Studio 54 ushered in around the winter of '76-'77 as the counterculture was chilling out.

IMO, music is important because, altho not the cause, it's the result and expression of what was happening around my parents at that time.

Dragnet! Just the facts maam...

           You've got your finger on it. The locations are correct. England had their own counter-culture. Greenwich Village was mostly for artist, poets, authors, and a few acoustic musicians--Joan Biaz. Haight Ashbury was a mecca for hippies, who all went for different reasons. Like Florida is a mecca for retired people. It started as a romantic thought, but after a few years, you had young people, with no education, no jobs, living in squallor conditions, drug problems. The fantasy fell apart quickly. Flower power can only take you so far. Your right about the grateful dead. I wouldn't call Shakedown Street disco. That's almost blasphemy to real deadheads. They gave a lot of free concerts in Goldengate park, Fillmore West. They, the band, went through an experimental period. Some of their concerts are legendary, with groupies following them around 24/7. I think that's what caused Jerry to start using Heroin. Where Woodstock on the east coast was 3 days of love and music; The Atalmont concert was sapost to be that on the west coast. But after the rolling stones played the're set, The Hell's Angels thought that someone was stealling the beer. They went crazy, and started stabbing people. I think 2 people died. I loved the dead's music, but for musical reasons. Not the drug reasons. The tune, "Truckin" is all about coke, and "Henry" is all about pot. Truckin tells about the band being busted in New Orleans for possestion. Steal Your Face is a good album. They had commercial success with 1 tune on the radio from that album. Barnes & Noble has excellent books on the band's history, and anthology. The album, "Workingman's Blues" is good, and there's 2 more, I can't remember, Wait!, "Terapin Station". I'll consult my collection

A lot went on in England, and by 1968 Paris too, but the real genesis of the thing and its heart was the USA.

So the influence of the Beatles only really took off when they were taken up there - 1964 or so.

I listened to Francoise Hardy's music Sunday nite. It got me wondering what went on in Paris in the '60's. I heard the Doors lead man is buried there - and he died in that time, yes ? What was going on over there ?

For older classics, I like the '60's Vegas scene with its pop songs from Dusty Springfield, Sonny & Cher, Rat Pack, Dionne Warwick....but that's just me........ 

From 1965 onwards South African Broadcasting Corporation banned the Beatles, After Lennon's 'more popular than Christ" comment.

Not sure when it was lifted, porbably '80 or so. We missed much of that over here. While beatlemania swept the world, Nancy Sinatra topped the charts here in 65, These boots are made for walking..

Jim Morrison, lead singer of the Doors, is buried in the Pere Lachaise Cemetary in Paris.  And there is a lot of controversy surrounding his death.

Tonight on PBS: 1964: American Experience (for those who weren't there).

            Lola;  I could be wrong, but I don't think there was anything going on in Paris, in terms of drugs, violence, and culture. The doors just had a gig there, and Jim went OD. It could of happened any where. I can't remember where Janis Joplin was, when she was found dead. The Grateful Dead's 1st keyboard man over dosed also. His nick-name was PIG PEN, so that should tell you something.

            When the Beatles came to America, everyone thought, OK, the're a pop rock band. It wasn't until they released, "Sgt Pepper", that everyone said,  AAHhhh, th're doing DRUGS, and they got caught up with Transcendental Meditation.

I think Morrison owned a bar or nightclub in Paris; Janis died in LA from a heroin OD, a couple of weeks after Hendrix OD'd.  We lost a lot of good people to that bad drug.