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What chessplayer, living or dead, would you like to have as your chess teacher?
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DoctorMove wrote:
5iegbert_7arrasch wrote:
DoctorMove wrote:
batgirl wrote:
Not sure of the source(s) and have no plans to go digging for it/them, but as 5iegbert_7arrasch mentioned, the climate in England wasn't particularly pleasant for Sultan Khan and it's been mentioned that he seemed to have a perpetual running nose.
Batgirl: Thank you for your reply. Where has " it's been mentioned that he seemed to have a perpetual running nose" , been mentioned? If you don't have plans to go digging for the source(s), then to post such a fact about Sultan Khan, a much admired chessplayer, seems to me to be at the very least unkind. You also state, "It's not a perjorative, it's a statement based on an observation." I assume that you know whose observation it is and I would hope that you would share it here.
You yourself call it a "fact". And why are you so down on batgirl?
Thank you Tarrasch for your comment.
I'm not down on Batgirl. I enjoy her articles very much. I would like a citation for her statement that Mir Sultan Khan had a "perpetual running nose." After all, Sultan Khan is a legendary chessplayer, and to say that about him requires a citation, or else it should not be stated as though it is a fact. I found it to be interesting that this statement came from Batgirl, who has a good reputation here as a writer of articles related to chess history. Historians cite their sources.
Incidentally, I wrote, "...such a fact". I'm not ready to accept this as a fact until I am directed to a source that is credible. If she is not willing to do that, then why make such a statement?
In some way, I suppose, I'm defending Sultan Khan.
Well, I thank you for your reply DoctorMove. The only reliable source that could confirm his runny nose would have to be the Master himself. And as far as I'm aware, he didn't speak nor write English that well. If you find anything about Sultan Kahn that was written by him, please let us know.
Mar 25, 2015
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#84
One annoying aspect of forums is a tendancy of people to type a simple sentence, then sit back and expect another person to do hours of research to satisfy their whim and if the person refuses, then assume some superior attitude.
With an article (or a book) presented with a certain amount of authority, there are standards for both accuracy and for sourcing/citing. A comment doesn't require such things, nor does someone demanding them mean anything.
I'm not even sure how or why one defends someone who isn't being attacked or diminished in any manner.
The statement that Mir Sultan Khan suffered from a perpetual running nose due to his exposure to the English climate was mentioned by someone who knew or met him. While I can't/won't try to track down that source (such a thing is easy to note but hard to find without considerable work), here is a simple and reliable source that doesn't specify but does, in fact, back up the statement strongly (and why such a pithy comment develops such importance to need backing up is beyond me):
"At the end of 1933 he [Khan] returned with his master to India, and his chess career was over. He had no regrets. Another servant in the household, Fatima (who had won the British Ladies Championship in 1933), said that Sultan felt that he had ben freed from prison. He suffered from bouts of malaria and, in the English climate, from continual colds and throat infections, often turning up to play with his neck swathed in bandages". —"OCC," Hooper & Whyld.
And, for the record, I'm not a historian.
batgirl wrote:
richie_and_oprah wrote:
Mir Sultan Khan
I'd find his constantly runny nose too disconcerting.
He was uncomfortable in english elimate. but you are from usa.
Many russians (chess teachers) will be sick in equatorial countries.
I would prefer that my chess teacher be living.
Tatiana Kosinceva or Ben Finegold
In 2005 I spent a week in Cancun and I was sick all the time. I guessit was due to the climate.
Weather, not climate.
Actually it was the booze.
Alcohol deodorant?!
Edit. :D
Wow! (No idea what that means)
Glad to hear that.
MuhammadAreez10 wrote:
Weather, not climate.
explain?
Kco: Does that need an explanation?!
Mikhail Botvinnik
Chicken_Monster wrote:
I would prefer that my chess teacher be living.
If you ever plan to improve as a chess player, you may find it necessary to relax your standards.
Mar 26, 2015
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#100
I don't think I would want to have anything to do with a dead chess teacher, that would be too scary for me. Fortunately there is a great living chess teacher I happen to like--Dan Heisman. I can't afford to have him teach me personally but I do watch his videos and that alone has been very helpful to me.
I'm not sure about the translation of "sacársela con papel de fumar". Splitting hairs, maybe? In any case fits on you, dr. Move. Is not far the day it won't be possible to make a simple joke.