What do I do if someone repeatedly offers a draw when it is mate next move..??

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For future reference, (Since I can't tell my opponent, "meet me at the monkey bars"), how do I report someone?

gorgeous_vulture

Set a conditional move for the mate, for extra style points

TheOldReb

His opponent resigned......

RetGuvvie98
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netzach

yes ....thanks to you all on this forum.

had set conditional move for mate.

but he did resign the game & perhaps I was being a little uptight over nothing.

patience also can be effective.

netzach
echecs06 wrote:

 


 ..... :-)

netzach

additionally reasonable etiqette in chess is what makes it a wonderful game.

to permit otherwise cheapens & devalues it.

may as well play dominoes.......very hard to cheat at that !

evan99m

you just wait for the clock to run out :):D:P

Dragec
RetGuvvie98 wrote:

d. FIDE (and USCF) rules of chess behavior do NOT apply to games on this private website, contrary to what Fezzik implied by quoting FIDE rules.

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this claim is  not supported with any data.

Chess is played according to the laws of chess and if some definitions are not strictly followed here is IMO only because it would be difficult to do it in Internet environment, not because chess.com would like to enforce its laws for chess.

Cystem_Phailure

He appears to have been talking about multiple draw offers during the same move? I didn't even know that could happen, but if it can, it can only happen if he continues responding to them.  If he'd just ignored them in the first place, the most he could get is one offer each turn.  And if it's really mate on the next move like the thread title says, that would result in a grand total of ONE draw offer in this situation.

Much ado about nothing.

Cystem_Phailure
Dragec wrote:
RetGuvvie98 wrote:

d. FIDE (and USCF) rules of chess behavior do NOT apply to games on this private website, contrary to what Fezzik implied by quoting FIDE rules.

...

this claim is  not supported with any data.


You mean data like the fact that there are rules in place in FIDE that are not in place on chess.com?

Dragec
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

He appears to have been talking about multiple draw offers during the same move? I didn't even know that could happen, but if it can, it can only happen if he continues responding to them.  If he'd just ignored them in the first place, the most he could get is one offer each turn.  And if it's really mate on the next move like the thread title says, that would result in a grand total of ONE draw offer in this situation.

Much ado about nothing.


Yep, this was already suggested to him, he probably keeps answering and the other guy just keep spamming the draw offers.

Dragec
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Dragec wrote:
RetGuvvie98 wrote:

d. FIDE (and USCF) rules of chess behavior do NOT apply to games on this private website, contrary to what Fezzik implied by quoting FIDE rules.

...

this claim is  not supported with any data.


You mean data like the fact that there are rules in place in FIDE that are not in place on chess.com?


I already addressed this in the part you conveniently deleted.Cool

And Eric and other staff members never said anything about "Erik laws of chess on chess.com", when they can not follow the FIDE, they said why.

They can not have more staff that would adjudicate games, software cannot detect some draw in locked positions, etc ...

Cystem_Phailure
Dragec wrote:
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Dragec wrote:
RetGuvvie98 wrote:

d. FIDE (and USCF) rules of chess behavior do NOT apply to games on this private website, contrary to what Fezzik implied by quoting FIDE rules.

...

this claim is  not supported with any data.


You mean data like the fact that there are rules in place in FIDE that are not in place on chess.com?


I already addressed this in the part you conveniently deleted.

And Eric and other staff members never said anything about "Erik laws of chess on chess.com", when they can not follow the FIDE, they said why.

They can not have more staff that would adjudicate games, software cannot detect some draw in locked positions, etc ...


The part I didn't include didn't explain away your original stupid comment that "this claim is not supported".  Ret never said chess.com wanted to "enforce its laws" over those of FIDE, that was your phrase.  Ret's statement only says that the FIDE laws are not the official rules on chess.com.  As far as that goes, they aren't the same for the USCF either in all aspects.

RetGuvvie98
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TheGrobe
Fezzik wrote:
RetGuvvie98 wrote:

d. FIDE (and USCF) rules of chess behavior do NOT apply to games on this private website, contrary to what Fezzik implied by quoting FIDE rules.


 This may be part of the problem. Retguvvie considers this a private website. It is indeed privately owned, but it is open to the public and publicly advertises itself as a chess site. It is not a private, exclusive club.  

The members do have a Terms of Service agreement that we enter into, but we do not abrogate the Laws of Chess by signing that agreement. The TOS do not mention the Laws of Chess directly, but clearly are aimed at creating an atmosphere conducive to following the letter and the spirit of the Laws of Chess.


Chess.com is free to implement any modifications to or interpretations of the rules of chess as they see fit because they are a privately owned web site.  It's probably in their best interested to adhere to the Laws of Chess as closely as can be reasonably accomplished here, but it's by no means a standard that they must follow.

Dragec
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Dragec wrote:
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
Dragec wrote:
RetGuvvie98 wrote:

d. FIDE (and USCF) rules of chess behavior do NOT apply to games on this private website, contrary to what Fezzik implied by quoting FIDE rules.

...

this claim is  not supported with any data.


You mean data like the fact that there are rules in place in FIDE that are not in place on chess.com?


I already addressed this in the part you conveniently deleted.

And Eric and other staff members never said anything about "Erik laws of chess on chess.com", when they can not follow the FIDE, they said why.

They can not have more staff that would adjudicate games, software cannot detect some draw in locked positions, etc ...


The part I didn't include didn't explain away your original stupid comment that "this claim is not supported".  Ret never said chess.com wanted to "enforce its laws" over those of FIDE, that was your phrase.  Ret's statement only says that the FIDE laws are not the official rules on chess.com.  As far as that goes, they aren't the same for the USCF either in all aspects.


Please do not violate the service by making offensive remarks:

http://www.chess.com/legal.html

Ret did not support his claims by any data and that's true. If he has some data supporting his claims I would be glad to accept I was wrong.

Cystem_Phailure

We should also take into account that there are really two types of rules here-- those that influence game play, and those that address player conduct but do not affect game play.  It's the latter that are most likely to differ between FIDE and USCF (and other organizations), and which are definitely most likely to have different situations over the Net.  Moreover, in this instance we are talking about a CC game, which is a different animal yet compared to a live game.  Nuisance draw offers fall into the player conduct category, not the game outcome category, and on CC chess I think a lot of people might not even find them to be that much of a nuisance-- myself, I'd be amused at the desperation of my opponent.  When chess.com doesn't automatically ban people for such behavior, bourish though it may be, I don't consider they are turning the laws of the chess universe upside-down.

netzach
Cystem_Phailure wrote:

He appears to have been talking about multiple draw offers during the same move? I didn't even know that could happen, but if it can, it can only happen if he continues responding to them.  If he'd just ignored them in the first place, the most he could get is one offer each turn.  And if it's really mate on the next move like the thread title says, that would result in a grand total of ONE draw offer in this situation.

Much ado about nothing.


 He offered draw & I declined. Game shows his move & clock is running.

returned to the game sometime later another draw offer in place, still hasn't moved albeit clock still running....

declined this draw also...back to square one.

this is what i meant & of course more than one offer is made.

Dragec

When reading the chess.com rules, it's easy for everyone who is acquainted to FIDE laws of chess to see that here on Chess.com, we only have a part of the rules written in the article.

It does not say that FIDE laws of chess does not apply, in-fact I for a fact know that some laws of chess, even if not written here applies.

I'll make an example, some of us often see a discussion regarding the "pinned piece can attack". If you look at the chess.com article describing the rules, you will only find a part "you can not put your king in check". But to make a whole package, the regulations from articles 3.1. and 3.9. FIDE laws of chess is missing in the chess.com rules. But anyone who played several games here knows that, even though this is not written in chess.com rules applies, so yes, pinned piece can attack. Cool