What do you think GM Hikaru IQ is?

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He's clearly 130+ IQ. don't take the 102/seriously, he's obviously quick thinking and intelligent

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crusaderking777 wrote:

He's clearly 130+ IQ. don't take the 102/seriously, he's obviously quick thinking and intelligent

I would guesstimate 120. He’s obviously a clever wordsmith, but after you’ve heard him enough, it becomes repetitive. His chess skills are strong and have been since he was a child. He has made a lot of money streaming. He’s self-deprecating and arrogant at the same time and wears both well. All these are indications of above average intelligence, but I don’t see a reason to think he’s in top 1 or 2%.

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MVL got a 175 IQ on the SLSE online IQ test, and Hikaru is ranked much higher so Hikaru has to have at least 180 IQ.

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Nepotamy wrote:

MVL got a 175 IQ on the SLSE online IQ test, and Hikaru is ranked much higher so Hikaru has to have at least 180 IQ.

Well this would make him 1 in 3.5 million. What do you know, yet another 3106 carat diamond.
Those tests are normed with samples of like 20 people's self reports, and based on that presume to measure IQs in the 1 in 100 million range. They are not serious IQ tests. There's really no comparison between the amount of rigor that goes into norming the Stanford Binet and something like that online test.
When every other person is 1 in 10 million your BS detectors are supposed to start ringing, but yours seems to be broken.

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I got a 65 in an online test. That’s why my chess rating will never exceed 1000.

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ibrust wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:

MVL got a 175 IQ on the SLSE online IQ test, and Hikaru is ranked much higher so Hikaru has to have at least 180 IQ.

Well this would make him 1 in 3.5 million. What do you know, yet another 3000 carat diamond.
Those tests are normed with samples of like 20 people's self reports, and based on that presume to measure IQs in the 1 in 100 million range. They are not serious IQ tests. There's really no comparison between the amount of rigor that goes into norming the Stanford Binet and something like that online test.
When every other person is 1 in 10 million your BS detectors are supposed to start ringing, but yours seems to be broken.

all im talking about are the top chess players. extraordinary minds. i didnt say everyone has a 180 IQ

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idkhow-to-mate wrote:

I don't care what Hikaru's IQ is (probably average), but I'm pretty sure the person opening this thread is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

an average person would never get over 2800 FIDE. that's like saying someone with a 100 IQ can come up with einstein's theories. not going to happen

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idkhow-to-mate wrote:

There isn't much connection between IQ and chess skills.

All you need to play chess well is vision skills (easy to practice) and good perception.

An imbecile having the two above would become GM (see Fisher) LMAO

Fischer was no imbecile. He had a 185 IQ.

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idkhow-to-mate wrote:
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idkhow-to-mate wrote:

There isn't much connection between IQ and chess skills.

All you need to play chess well is vision skills (easy to practice) and good perception.

An imbecile having the two above would become GM (see Fisher) LMAO

Fischer was no imbecile. He had a 185 IQ.

How do you know Fischer's IQ?

why do you think fischer was an imbecile when there is a lot of evidence supporting the opposite

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you seem to want to think every GM has a very low IQ. why are you on this site?

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Nepotamy wrote:
idkhow-to-mate wrote:

There isn't much connection between IQ and chess skills.

All you need to play chess well is vision skills (easy to practice) and good perception.

An imbecile having the two above would become GM (see Fisher) LMAO

Fischer was no imbecile. He had a 185 IQ.

His IQ is unknown, but even Frank Brady’s wholly irresponsible estimate is below yours.

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Ziryab wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
idkhow-to-mate wrote:

There isn't much connection between IQ and chess skills.

All you need to play chess well is vision skills (easy to practice) and good perception.

An imbecile having the two above would become GM (see Fisher) LMAO

Fischer was no imbecile. He had a 185 IQ.

His IQ is unknown, but even Frank Brady’s wholly irresponsible estimate is below yours.

His IQ score is 180-190. Happy? That's what I originally said.

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Nepotamy wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
idkhow-to-mate wrote:

There isn't much connection between IQ and chess skills.

All you need to play chess well is vision skills (easy to practice) and good perception.

An imbecile having the two above would become GM (see Fisher) LMAO

Fischer was no imbecile. He had a 185 IQ.

His IQ is unknown, but even Frank Brady’s wholly irresponsible estimate is below yours.

His IQ score is 180-190. Happy? That's what I originally said.

Again, it is pure speculation rooted in misunderstanding. That is, you assume a strong relationship between chess skill and IQ. There is no such relationship. Brady employs an unnamed school counselor who was drawing on memories of seeing standardized test scores—not IQ tests—twenty years before he reported them to Brady. Brady’s claim, thus, is based on flimsy and unreliable information. Nonetheless, although wholly lacking credibility, it is more credible than yours.

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Ziryab wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
idkhow-to-mate wrote:

There isn't much connection between IQ and chess skills.

All you need to play chess well is vision skills (easy to practice) and good perception.

An imbecile having the two above would become GM (see Fisher) LMAO

Fischer was no imbecile. He had a 185 IQ.

His IQ is unknown, but even Frank Brady’s wholly irresponsible estimate is below yours.

His IQ score is 180-190. Happy? That's what I originally said.

Again, it is pure speculation rooted in misunderstanding. That is, you assume a strong relationship between chess skill and IQ. There is no such relationship. Brady employs an unnamed school counselor who was drawing on memories of seeing standardized test scores—not IQ tests—twenty years before he reported them to Brady. Brady’s claim, thus, is based on flimsy and unreliable information. Nonetheless, although wholly lacking credibility, it is more credible than yours.

If there is no relationship between intelligence and chess skill, where are the mentally (not socially) retarded GMs?

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RobertLPeters wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Nepotamy wrote:
idkhow-to-mate wrote:

There isn't much connection between IQ and chess skills.

All you need to play chess well is vision skills (easy to practice) and good perception.

An imbecile having the two above would become GM (see Fisher) LMAO

Fischer was no imbecile. He had a 185 IQ.

His IQ is unknown, but even Frank Brady’s wholly irresponsible estimate is below yours.

His IQ score is 180-190. Happy? That's what I originally said.

Again, it is pure speculation rooted in misunderstanding. That is, you assume a strong relationship between chess skill and IQ. There is no such relationship. Brady employs an unnamed school counselor who was drawing on memories of seeing standardized test scores—not IQ tests—twenty years before he reported them to Brady. Brady’s claim, thus, is based on flimsy and unreliable information. Nonetheless, although wholly lacking credibility, it is more credible than yours.

If there is no relationship between intelligence and chess skill, where are the mentally (not socially) retarded GMs?

Studies have shown a relationship, but it is far from strong. Certain elements that are measure in IQ tests, such as memory, are also vital elements in chess skill.

Probably all GMs are above average in general intelligence (whatever that is—another topic, perhaps). But the idea that superior chess skill is grounded in vastly superior intelligence is unsupported and demonstrably false. The greatest chess player in history took a battery of intelligence tests and was found to be very bright, but below genius. Very few other chess GMs have taken IQ tests. Online tests do not count.

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135.5

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Chess skill must correlate to IQ becUse when your calculating multiple lines deeply in rapid you need a fast processor/brain

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Chess skill correlated positively and significantly with fluid reasoning (Gf) (r = 0.24), comprehension-knowledge (Gc) (r = 0.22), short-term memory (Gsm) (r = 0.25), and processing speed (Gs

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Heres a different study The results showed that chess skill correlated significantly with all the measures of cognitive ability. Put simply; the "smarter" the player, the higher the level of chess skill.

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Chess players' performance was significantly superior in cognitive abilities such as processing speed, planning, fluid intelligence and memory than in study participants who didn't play chess.