... so I believe that chess-boxing would not be very clever and, perhaps, even a bit stupid. Incidentally, would gloves and gum guards and whatever be worn?
You seem to be speaking as if it isn't a real thing. Check the link on my first post
Oh I expect it's real. I didn't mean to doubt you. There are a great many stupid people in the World.
... so I believe that chess-boxing would not be very clever and, perhaps, even a bit stupid. Incidentally, would gloves and gum guards and whatever be worn?
You seem to be speaking as if it isn't a real thing. Check the link on my first post
I've looked at the link and it was a surprise that it was in the UK. I've played against David Jarmany a few times. The thing is, I can't box at all. Never done it, so the entire thing would be a matter of luck and not skill, for me at least. I'd just try to knock the other guy out right away. Probably wouldn't succeed against those two at 70!
I actually used to enjoy fighting when I was 13 but at that age, it's hard to do anyone any real damage and I wouldn't have wanted to hurt anyone. I sometimes used to let people win, which calmed them down. But I obviously had a reputation and didn't need to prove it. On nearly the last day I attended that school, there was this guy I knew vaguely from the year above me and I quite liked him so I walked with him. And he was being threatened by three or four of his classmates. I would have just turned 14 and they would be 15. They told me to keep away from him because they were going to beat him up and they'd do the same to me if I didn't. I ignored them and they started to advance on us .... then one of their friends said something to them which I couldn't hear and they backed right off. The other lad thanked me for it.
I think we both changed schools that Summer; both moving to other parts of the UK. I never saw him again but about four years ago, I bought his entire, very large, stamp collection from a firm of stamp and coin dealers. It brought back a lot of memories. It turned out he was Jewish and it had been racial bullying. I remember being very glad he had someone to stand up for him that day, over half a century before. I hoped he had been parted voluntarily and not involuntarily from his collection.
I'm not a physically aggressive person. Most fights I've been in, and they're very few, I've consciously tried not to hurt the other person and ended up just agreeing to stop, probably in a slightly losing position. I only ever in my life challenged someone to a fight once and I can't even remember what happened. It was when I was about 13 and somebody came over one dinner time when we were all sitting in the sun on the school field, and told me there was someone who thought he could fight me. It was a rough part of the World and so I sent him back with a challenge, for honour's sake. I can only remember two occasions in my life, when I've been so angry I've tried to do maximum damage and it only takes two seconds. Those two incidents taught me that peaceful means are always better, so I believe that chess-boxing would not be very clever and, perhaps, even a bit stupid. Incidentally, would gloves and gum guards and whatever be worn?
Yea the whole thing; Mouthguard to prevent teeth from getting knocked out, hand wraps and 16oz gloves, maybe some boxing shoes, and definitely a Jewel Protector (groins). Well perhaps you don't want to fight etc and not resort to that sort of thing... but Combat sport is great for exercise as well some productivity in unarmed combat... Naturally only sports I follow
Boxing is very bad for the health. Like heading a football, especially in the old days, when it was heavier, especially when wet.
Boxing is very bad for the health. Like heading a football, especially in the old days, when it was heavier, especially when wet.
Yes of course there can be brain damage... but again if you know you place and lets say based on your skills you just do amateur fights, don't close your eyes and put your chins up in the air (ahem brawl)... and just be safe... And in training again you don't go bang up... like you can use headgear & there is technical or (*soft*) sparring etc it can be fine for your health
The problem with chessboxing is that the chess board is too strong. It is just way easier to get a checkmate then to get a KO.
Oh really is that right?
So you're telling me you'd rather play Mike Tyson than Magnus Carlsen at chess boxing?
Boxing is very bad for the health. Like heading a football, especially in the old days, when it was heavier, especially when wet.
Yes of course there can be brain damage... but again if you know you place and lets say based on your skills you just do amateur fights, don't close your eyes and put your chins up in the air (ahem brawl)... and just be safe... And in training again you don't go bang up... like you can use headgear & there is technical or (*soft*) sparring etc it can be fine for your health
I have no idea how to box. All that bobbing and weaving would seem to put people on their guard but I suppose it's a decoy, if you bore them to death and watch their eyes and the way they're balanced.
Boxing is very bad for the health. Like heading a football, especially in the old days, when it was heavier, especially when wet.
Yes of course there can be brain damage... but again if you know you place and lets say based on your skills you just do amateur fights, don't close your eyes and put your chins up in the air (ahem brawl)... and just be safe... And in training again you don't go bang up... like you can use headgear & there is technical or (*soft*) sparring etc it can be fine for your health
I have no idea how to box. All that bobbing and weaving would seem to put people on their guard but I suppose it's a decoy, if you bore them to death and watch their eyes and the way they're balanced.
Bobbing and weaving is about avoiding hits and well as for prophylaxis (similar to chess) to ensure an opponent's attacks are lost by the time you maintain an appropriate angle to attack.
The problem with chessboxing is that the chess board is too strong. It is just way easier to get a checkmate then to get a KO.
The most optimal strategy is to turtle and hide during your boxing match, then win during your blitz game. This is especially true because if your opponent goes all out, they'll be out of breath during your chess game, and blunder more often.
I think I would prefer it so that the boxing match times out before the chess match, if both players are not delaying, then the boxing match would decide draws.
Doing a turtle and trying to run away from your opponent when in the ring will just result in you being punched into the corner of the ring, with no skill against a good boxer you are getting floored.
I think it could be more dangerous than regular boxing because you would be fresher and stronger for each round of boxing.
MelvinGarvey, I agree. Chess celebrates/hones mental acuity -- boxing is a sport in which you literally attempt to cause brain damage in your opponent. If boxing is legal, why are not all drugs? Some drugs do a lot less damage than boxing.
Having said all that, if you ignore the negative aspects, it sounds interesting at first glance. However, boxing itself requires tactics and strategy so chess boxing seems redundant. If someone was GM in chess and only a fair boxer, would he really want to subject himself to possible concussion? I think this is why, afaik, there are no GMs (I could be wrong) who participate.
death in boxing is rare; but yeah, some people like to watch others being hurt. chess players like to watch the constructive results of struggle -- that is, the chess game.
MelvinGarvey, I agree. Chess celebrates/hones mental acuity -- boxing is a sport in which you literally attempt to cause brain damage in your opponent. If boxing is legal, why are not all drugs? Some drugs do a lot less damage than boxing.
Having said all that, if you ignore the negative aspects, it sounds interesting at first glance. However, boxing itself requires tactics and strategy so chess boxing seems redundant. If someone was GM in chess and only a fair boxer, would he really want to subject himself to possible concussion? I think this is why, afaik, there are no GMs (I could be wrong) who participate.
Max Euwe was a very successful amateur boxer, although he was definitely an unusual case.
How about human chess but when you try to make a capture, the two human pieces have to fight it out or the capturing piece is lost?
I'm not a physically aggressive person. Most fights I've been in, and they're very few, I've consciously tried not to hurt the other person and ended up just agreeing to stop, probably in a slightly losing position. I only ever in my life challenged someone to a fight once and I can't even remember what happened. It was when I was about 13 and somebody came over one dinner time when we were all sitting in the sun on the school field, and told me there was someone who thought he could fight me. It was a rough part of the World and so I sent him back with a challenge, for honour's sake. I can only remember two occasions in my life, when I've been so angry I've tried to do maximum damage and it only takes two seconds. Those two incidents taught me that peaceful means are always better, so I believe that chess-boxing would not be very clever and, perhaps, even a bit stupid. Incidentally, would gloves and gum guards and whatever be worn?