no problem brahs. I do this for us. As i also say information is a public good, thus it can never be overly consumed. This is why i want to see discussions on here
what does chess help you improve?
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#63
I can add to your guys self esteem right now. You see how i helped you guys out now all i ask is a simple favour which will change your life which it did for me. I'm trying to built unity on this chess. Use those 10 tips and add to forum http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/upcoming-chess-player--interview-chess-discussion. Thank you guys in advance
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#64
notice that the article doesn't assert that chess helps you improve at chess. Truer words are rarely spoken.
Hey check out this http://www.chess.com/blog/Soccersoccer/tips-and-tricks it's a work in forever progress that will start with basics and slowly advance
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Somebodysson wrote:
notice that the article doesn't assert that chess helps you improve at chess. Truer words are rarely spoken.
you just blew my mind brah. So there is no correlation between chess rating and hours spent, makes sense.
Wow
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#68
ahh, in this mini-world of chess.com forums, someone worth reading writes! Welcome, firebrandx!
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#69
FirebrandX wrote:
letsgohome wrote:
Somebodysson wrote:
notice that the article doesn't assert that chess helps you improve at chess. Truer words are rarely spoken.
you just blew my mind brah. So there is no correlation between chess rating and hours spent, makes sense.
Well it depends. If you play bullet chess all the time without any other form of chess study, your rate of improvement will be near non-existant.
I susect the many hours that I've spend playing blitz and bullet have retarded my progress. I do also study, but chess played at less than five minutes per game (that's almost leisurely compared to my usual three and one-minute) reinforces bad habits.
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#70
What does chess help you improve?
Your gaming skills within the bounds of a 64 light and dark square board.
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onthehouse wrote:
What does chess help you improve?
Your gaming skills within the bounds of a 64 light and dark square board.
Actually a bit more than that....see posts 70 and 82 to name a few :)
yes chess does make you smarter did me i made me use my mind and that meant my mind as more receptive to information processing it and decision making s im quite happy to say my intelligence has grown through playing chess
In playing and studying chess many skills are trained. Spending a great deal of time critically analyzing anything challenging is enriching. Being accustomed to think in abstractions is necessary for success in a wide range of difficult and respected career fields. As an example the ASVAB test administred in the States measures "developed abilities and helps predict future academic and occupational success in the military". A section of this test is composed of looking at complex shapes and manipulating them as the instructions suggest. The results of these abstract thought exercises can be used to predict academic success yet I'm supposed to believe that chess cannot benefit one outside of chess? For those who take chess seriously and devote time to studying it, it is very much a scholarly activity not unlike studying any other serious subject like law or medicine. You expect me to believe this practice also cannot help one in other pursuits?
Chess is also a creative outlet like playing an instrument or dancing. Looking over a brilliancy can be just as aesthetically pleasing for chess players as sweet music is to the non-chess player.
It also shares the same positive (and negative) qualities of other sports. The thrill of competition and the euphoria of triumph. The satisfaction of progressing and continuing to move up the ladder among other althetes. These features of chess are psychologically extremely rewarding.
So to those that say "Chess knowledge is only useful for chess":
Sure, if you view it from only the most narrow of perspectives. Perhaps I might add "Becoming a doctor only means you possess knowledge of the human body; it can't help you in any other areas of life".
Patience!
The ability to think in more than one way
Talfan1 wrote:
yes chess does make you smarter did me i made me use my mind and that meant my mind as more receptive to information processing it and decision making s im quite happy to say my intelligence has grown through playing chess
And yet, you are still a Liverpool fan. Lol. 
just kidding. :))
Concentration and focus, seeing possible threats (it teaches you how to be paranoid :D), and it teaches you to visualize things in your head without having to write anything down or move anything (a very valuable skill!).
clms_chess wrote:
iamdeafzed wrote:
Q: What does chess help you improve?
A: It helps you improve at playing more chess. And perhaps it's time better spent than, say, watching episodes of Star Trek Voyager on TV.
Aside from that? Probably not all that much. Chess is very esoteric in the sense that it doesn't typically have much applicability to the outside world, much like a lot of higher level mathematics. Although math actually takes some brains to do whereas it's much easier to play chess reasonably well without being particularly bright.
I do recall that those who play chess during their school years tend to make for better students (on average) than those who don't (all other things being equal), but of course correlation isn't necessarily causation, so it's quite possible that the better students are just more attracted to chess playing for whatever reason.
Also, I haven't read up a lot on this particular topic (especially lately), but I've done a little.
(Coached Chess going on 10 years (also taught at the same school for 8 years... see above post)
Nope.... their grades DO improve, because of chess. I am not quoting some study... I "see" it every year. Some kids who already have good grades play chess for me.... but it's the ones that were D and F students for years and then turn it around after playing competitive scholastic chess for a year or more....that really stand out... looking back through the years, I can still "see" their faces... and... remember some names. :)
Sorry, but your anectodal "evidence" (as well as Ziryab's) for your apparent belief that playing chess causes students to improve in their school studies is circumstantial at best. During your time watching D and F students turn into something better, did you factor in things like the observer/confirmation bias that perhaps led you not to notice the kids who showed absolutely zero improvement in their grades or perhaps whose grades went down? Were you even aware of what grades all your students got before and after they started taking lessons from you? Hm?
There's a reason why people do science, and it's to substantiate whether or not theories like yours that are based on nothing other than anecdotal "evidence" (which is to say, just about no evidence at all) are based on fact or otherwise.
Look, maybe you're right that chess playing does cause students to perform better in school. But to my knowledge at least, this has yet to proven unequivocally in the scientific community, and like it or not, that's what matters. I respect your experience teaching chess insofar as it has perhaps given you better intuition on the matter, but don't pass off your intuition as "evidence" either. It's not.
Oh, and chess may help with "...with problem solving, visualizing, strategizing, anticipation, focus, concentrateing, thinking skills, have fun, and much more", but here's the problem: no one (again, to my knowledge) has been able to demonstrably show that these aspects of problem solving, etc. extend much beyond the chess world. There's zero evidence, for example, that learning Anastasia's mate helps you solve differential equations (or something) better.
Chess.
I agree