what does magnus carlsen see when he sees a chessboard

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what do his eyes/brain see that the rest of us don't

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Patterns. From thousands of master games. A level of pattern recognition that gives him a sense about what to do in a position. This is because he has been doing it since he was a child. 

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Yeah, it's pattern recognition.  It's like looking at a page of written text.

Illiterate - non players

Can recognize which language it is - knowing how the pieces move

Recognize some of the characters - knowing some basics like develop

Recognize elementary words - Social players and weak club players

Can read books for young children - average club players

Can read a newspaper or magazine - strong club player

Can read technical papers and interpret literature - weaker titled players

Can write technical papers and literature - the best players.

Writes some of the best literature of the day - Carlsen.

Something like that.

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Back in the early 90's I played in a chess tournament in Chattanooga and one round I faced NM Jerry Wheeler from Nashville I think.  I was only rated class D or low Class C and it was obvious that any chance I had of winning a prize went up in smoke after realizing he was my next opponent.

I remember him telling me that I should look at that game as a learning experience because many chess players will never have the opportunity of playing a real master over the board.  He then told me after he handed me my hat that he couldn't explain it but the more chess games you play you begin to recognize chess patterns and that would come with experience.  As weak as my pattern recognition is I now understand what he was telling me.

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I think this question really can't be answered accurately unless you happen to be Magnus Carlsen, or perhaps a psychic.

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64 alternate colored squares with chess pieces on them.

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premio53 wrote:

Back in the early 90's I played in a chess tournament in Chattanooga and one round I faced NM Jerry Wheeler from Nashville I think.  I was only rated class D or low Class C and it was obvious that any chance I had of winning a prize went up in smoke after realizing he was my next opponent.

I remember him telling me that I should look at that game as a learning experience because many chess players will never have the opportunity of playing a real master over the board.  He then told me after he handed me my hat that he couldn't explain it but the more chess games you play you begin to recognize chess patterns and that would come with experience.  As weak as my pattern recognition is I now understand what he was telling me.

Are you still a class C player after 20 years?

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ggamerman wrote:

I think this question really can't be answered accurately unless you happen to be Magnus Carlsen, or perhaps a psychic.

I believe all strong chess players recognise chess patterns.  I read one time that the reason Siegbert Tarrasch never became World Champion is because he was weak at math..  I believe it may also explain why once boys reach puberty they start passing girls when it comes to chess.  Men and women do think differently.

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SilentKnighte5 wrote:
premio53 wrote:

Back in the early 90's I played in a chess tournament in Chattanooga and one round I faced NM Jerry Wheeler from Nashville I think.  I was only rated class D or low Class C and it was obvious that any chance I had of winning a prize went up in smoke after realizing he was my next opponent.

I remember him telling me that I should look at that game as a learning experience because many chess players will never have the opportunity of playing a real master over the board.  He then told me after he handed me my hat that he couldn't explain it but the more chess games you play you begin to recognize chess patterns and that would come with experience.  As weak as my pattern recognition is I now understand what he was telling me.

Are you still a class C player after 20 years?

My 4 year old son was killed in a car wreck and I quit playing chess.  I played in my first chess tournament in 18 years a couple of months ago.

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premio53 wrote:

I believe all strong chess players recognise chess patterns.  I read one time that the reason Siegbert Tarrasch never became World Champion is because he was weak at math..  I believe it may also explain why once boys reach puberty they start passing girls when it comes to chess.  Men and women do think differently.

I think you didn't pick up on the joke. While what you say is probably correct - men and women do, as a rule, think differently (no sexism intended, that's simply how the reality is), and Tarrasch having poor "calculating" abilities could hinder his strength, my post wasn't intended as a serious reply (several of which had already been posted).

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Magnus is a walking chess library. He can recall thousands upon thousands of master games, recognise individual positions from them, name the players, their history, name the year and tournament the game was played at etc.
When you throw an idea at him he instantly has a good idea of what it's about and what's going to result from it.

Most of us aren't so good at that. Tongue Out

And most of us are ofcourse outright unwilling to put in that kind of effort. (Ie. a life time all consuming study of chess.)

Plus ofcourse he is extremely good (ie. perhaps best there ever was) at calculation and every other skill required for chess..

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Dead pieces

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Dead people

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JMB2010 wrote:

Dead pieces

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chessmaster54458 wrote:

what do his eyes/brain see that the rest of us don't


A whole lot more than i see

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He sees a chessboard with pieces on it and visualises positions in his head, I presume.

Off topic: the title of this thread reminded me of the following picture:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-epzbWI-GsnI/UceOjyBOMgI/AAAAAAAABK0/7Taijj6dOMo/s1600/chess+meme+how+we+see+ivanchuk+ceiling.jpg

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I just asked him on the You Tube site. Who knows--maybe he'll respond. Probably not, he must be extremely busy, but it doesn't harm to try.

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Magnus probably sees opportunity

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$$$,$$$,$$$

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Boogalicious wrote:

$$$,$$$,$$$

Nothing wrong with that.