What even are brilliant moves anymore???

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NMRhino
I think this is the most brilliant game I’ve ever played , yet I get no brilliant moves for this. 

sandresco

The game analysis is showing me two brilliant moves, well played.

NMRhino
I think it’s because your lower rated then me so it shows brilliant moves for only your game report.
NMRhino
I didn’t get a brilliant move and I’m surprised because I doubt any 2000 could have seen that.
Duck

The game analysis showed 2 brilliant moves for me (moves 24 and 25). Well played!

NMRhino
When I checked the game report on mobile, again it still doesn’t say I got any brilliant moves. I just checked the game report on the web browser and now it says I have 2 brilliant moves. Chess.com really needs to fix this because the analysis of my games shouldn’t be different based off of what device I am playing on.
1Username2awesome3
NMRhino wrote:
When I checked the game report on mobile, again it still doesn’t say I got any brilliant moves. I just checked the game report on the web browser and now it says I have 2 brilliant moves. Chess.com really needs to fix this because the analysis of my games shouldn’t be different based off of what device I am playing on.

I think it is because of the computing power of mobile vs desktop.

 

NMRhino
So I’m smarter then the stockfish on mobile chess.com
snoozyman
That was an amazing finish, good job 👍
JoKinnell
Yo I just checked one of my games in the mobile app and in the browser and got a similar result… the same move was marked as brilliant in the browser and just best in the app. I don’t think it has anything to to with which device the game is analysed on since I checked both on my iPad. This is weird
LordSnuffletwiit

They are moves, any moves, made by noble personages, such as myself old sport.

1g1yy

Wow, what a great tactic.  Good game.  thumbup

There's 2 answers to your question.  1 covered already is the computing power of the device determines to what depth the analysis is done.  It's controlled by time, not depth.  So, a faster computer analyzes deeper.   Second, Chess.com grades moves on a curve when it decides what is brilliant vs good vs whatever.  What it considers great/brilliant depends on your rating.  Even mistake vs inaccuracy vs blunder is not the same depending on what your rating is. 

While I personally don't like the way it's done, it's really no different than a coach talking to a student and analyzing a game with them.  They're going to try to be encouraging to the lower rated player and a move that a 2000 student might get scolded for because they didn't see a problem 10 plies later, they understand that the 500 while making the same move is looking ahead 6 plies and for them this is objectively a great success finding that same less-than-engine-perfect move. 

Mattew

I never got a brilliant, sadge

NotAChemSweat

#13 same sad.png

ForsookTheRook
JoKinnell wrote:
Yo I just checked one of my games in the mobile app and in the browser and got a similar result… the same move was marked as brilliant in the browser and just best in the app. I don’t think it has anything to to with which device the game is analysed on since I checked both on my iPad. This is weird

Same thing happens to me using an Android. Also, when I first analyze in the app, and then the browser, (using the same device),  my accuracy often changes significantly. Evidently the engine analyzes longer in the browser. The app has a number of glitches, which is surprising given chess.com is touted as the premier chess website. 

Martin_Stahl
JoKinnell wrote:
Yo I just checked one of my games in the mobile app and in the browser and got a similar result… the same move was marked as brilliant in the browser and just best in the app. I don’t think it has anything to to with which device the game is analysed on since I checked both on my iPad. This is weird

 

What version of the app? If is listed as Game Report, it's using a different move classification system.

Martin_Stahl
NMRhino wrote:
When I checked the game report on mobile, again it still doesn’t say I got any brilliant moves. I just checked the game report on the web browser and now it says I have 2 brilliant moves. Chess.com really needs to fix this because the analysis of my games shouldn’t be different based off of what device I am playing on.

 

If your app is showing Game Report, it's using a different move classification system. 

 

Game Review uses a different definition for brilliant, which is a sacrifice that is best or good. The older Game Report does something completely different.

magipi
1g1yy wrote:

it's really no different than a coach talking to a student and analyzing a game with them. 

Well, presumably that was the goal. In practice, however, the chess.com script that interprets Stockfish's analysis ("the Coach") is extraordinarily dumb. Even comparing it to a human is a bad joke. You could train a clever dog to be a better chess teacher than "the Coach".

The only sensible thing is to disregard all that. Never use "Game review", that is just nonsense. Use "Analysis" instead.

SacrificeEnPassanter
sandresco wrote:

The game analysis is showing me two brilliant moves, well played.

Same sandresco

SacrificeEnPassanter
ArjunHPJINX wrote:
sandresco wrote:

The game analysis is showing me two brilliant moves, well played.

Same sandresco

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