What is chess? Is it sport?

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TonightOnly
Unbeliever wrote: A sport should not require physical challenges to be classified as such.  Chess is a sport in my book, because of its intricacy and skill required to play it on a master-level.

 Chess requires absolutely no skill, other than the ability to move the pieces. This is one of the main reasons that it is not viewed as a sport.


Dahan

I think chess could be classified as a sport. The only thing that might hold it back is how physical it is, but all sports are a combination of the mental and physical.  Lets look at it this way. Sprinting is a sport. It may seem that it is entirely physical, but talk to anyone who is top of their field in it and they'll talk about the mental aspect too. At lower levels, not so much. I believe chess is a mirror to that. At lower levels, it appears to be nothing but a mental exercise, but at the top tiers you need to be taking care of your body as well. Eh, it could go either way.

 Obviously these are generalizations.

 


neneko
TonightOnly wrote:Unbeliever wrote:A sport should not require physical challenges to be classified as such.  Chess is a sport in my book, because of its intricacy and skill required to play it on a master-level.

 Chess requires absolutely no skill, other than the ability to move the pieces. This is one of the main reasons that it is not viewed as a sport.


 I agree with chess not requiring any skill but couldn't that be said about most sports too then? Like running for example it doesn't take any skill besides the ability to put one foot in front of the other wich for most people is alot easier than moving chess pieces.


WhoShotTheSheriff
Chess is not a sport, it is an activity.
camdawg7
It's just a boardgame.  Sports require the usage of 900Kcal/hr.  Thats my definition of a sport.
hinmanhouse

Chess is a board game.  It is a highly complex board game with basic rules simple enough that even an extremely novice player (like me) can play it and enjoy it.  It can be played with almost infinitley increasing levels of skill, and at the highest of these levels it presents a degree of intellectual challenge absent from virtually all other board games.  But it's a board game, chess fanatics.  To argue that it is a "sport" because it has "most of the attributes" of a sport or because it "is considered so"  is the exact same level of logic as me saying, "I am a howler monkey, because I have most of the attibutes of one (I am a primate, I can climb things, I can grip with my hand, I am an omnivore) and, besides, I am considered to be a howler monkey by the little group with which I associate."

If you define Chess as a sport, then Scrabble, Risk, and Backgammon are also sports.  Sorry...but they meet all of your criteria as well.  Maybe they don't sound as smart...but neither do you when you try to argue that a board game is a sport.

Am3692

technically? yes.

Public opinion? no.


Unbeliever-inactive
TonightOnly wrote: Unbeliever wrote: A sport should not require physical challenges to be classified as such.  Chess is a sport in my book, because of its intricacy and skill required to play it on a master-level.

 Chess requires absolutely no skill, other than the ability to move the pieces. This is one of the main reasons that it is not viewed as a sport.


 Chess requires absolutely NO SKILL??  So, if skill is not a factor in chess, then, I suppose, I could simply play a person like Kasparov or Fischer and win?  There is no skill in chess, so everyone should play exactly the same.  Chess requires mental skill, and it annoys me that you automatically classified skill as a physical connotation.


savy_swede

chess is a sport

ice skating? definately not

ivandh

I don't think it is a sport. Sports are physical games, chess is a mental game. Just like poker is a mental game, in that someone is probably mental for watching it on ESPN. (Sorry, I had to say it.) 


savy_swede
ivandh wrote:

I don't think it is a sport. Sports are physical games, chess is a mental game. Just like poker is a mental game, in that someone is probably mental for watching it on ESPN. (Sorry, I had to say it.)

yeah, anyone who can watch poker has far to much free time
AquaMan

I got into chess so that I would be swarmed by adoring women.  I figured women like athletes.  Now I find out that chess is just a game.  This explains a lot.

 

Paul

sstteevveenn

"So, if skill is not a factor in chess, then, I suppose, I could simply play a person like Kasparov or Fischer and win?"

 

Kasparov no, fischer yes... 


TonightOnly
neneko wrote: TonightOnly wrote:Unbeliever wrote:A sport should not require physical challenges to be classified as such.  Chess is a sport in my book, because of its intricacy and skill required to play it on a master-level.

 Chess requires absolutely no skill, other than the ability to move the pieces. This is one of the main reasons that it is not viewed as a sport.


 I agree with chess not requiring any skill but couldn't that be said about most sports too then? Like running for example it doesn't take any skill besides the ability to put one foot in front of the other wich for most people is alot easier than moving chess pieces.


 Not at all!

 

Most sports do require a tremendous amount of skill. Sprinting takes a lot less skill than, say hitting a 90 mph pitch; but then, the athleticism required is much higher than for a ballplayer. Either way, I think running 20 mph takes more skill than moving chess pieces. A small child can move a chess piece without tipping it over, probably before they learn how to walk.


TonightOnly
Unbeliever wrote: TonightOnly wrote: Unbeliever wrote: A sport should not require physical challenges to be classified as such.  Chess is a sport in my book, because of its intricacy and skill required to play it on a master-level.

 Chess requires absolutely no skill, other than the ability to move the pieces. This is one of the main reasons that it is not viewed as a sport.


 Chess requires mental skill, and it annoys me that you automatically classified skill as a physical connotation.


 I am very sorry I annoyed you. The sole aim of my post was to please you, and, in failing to do so, I find myself deeply remorseful.


silentfilmstar13
I am amazed at the number of people who think that chess requires physical fitness.  That seems like justification from wishful thinkers aiming to rationalize their own over-qualifying of a great game.
silentfilmstar13
Amnesiac wrote:

I think the confussion on this issue lies in the definition of the word sport. Whilst the thing alot of people think is the physical aspect of it, it can also mean-a diversion, recreation, pleasant pastime. All three of which I'm sure you would all agree can be chess. As regards the physical aspects I think that only applys at GM level and so I think only they could really argue that either way.

 


As mentioned earlier, this definition of a sport allows for many absurd additions to the catergory.  By that definition, watching television, whittling, posting in internet forums, and origami are sports.  Do you accept that definition?  I don't.  The physical preparations that some, yes, some, GMs make are merely that.  They are preparations for a non-physical game.  The actual game of chess requires only enough physical ability to repeatedly move chess pieces.  I'm sure that even that isn't necessary.  I would think that FIDE would allow a designated piece mover for a physically handicapped player.  No physical ability is necessary; it's not a sport.

Redwall
chess is recognised as a sport by more then 20 country's and two-thirds of the world's sports federations. Near the end of 2006, chess was finally recognized as a sport in the U.K, with the ruling that you need to be both mentally and physically fit to become a elite player. You at the top around 15-25, and you need a lot of training to get good at it.
jdix42

chess is a board game!!! people get caught up in making the silliest issues. i agree it is mentally demanding but so is monopoly when you have no money and still have to go around the board hoping someone lands on your property. i've noticed sports require some form and coordination. how coordinated do you have to be to move a piece? how much form does it take? get real those of you that sit on your butts and call chess a sport. its a board game!!!!! 

Arby
Chess is art (to me).