What is going on with 1000-1300 rating

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dan3460

Every now and then i fall back in the low 1300s, i don't now why. I'm normally in the mid high 1400. But i lose 5 or 6 games in a row falling back to the 1300s. That would not be a problem you can climb back to your rating, but it is frustrating playing at that level.

Several times this past low i got paired with a 1200 player, both games the player sack his/her queen. In one game the player gave all the pieces by placing them in stupid squares or capturing pawn that was protected. The problem was that it will take 5 minutes on each move, he/she lost on time at the end. In the other game after a couple of minutes (i play only 30 minutes games) when he/she sacked the queen stopped playing, only to make a move with 30 seconds left on the clock.

What is the thinking of this people? Are they hoping that you will give up and resign the game?

In my experience lower rated player less than 1000 are polite and proper, same when you are over 1400. People seem to know how to play and it is enjoyable.

anyone else has experience something similar?

GMPatzer

Okay your problem is very simple just looking at a few of your games, you must learn to use your clock better, the games I looked at your on move 20 / 30 with only using 3 - 5 mins of your 30 mins ouch!

This video from Dan Heisman should help  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMvxOtjvsTU

Good Luck! hope this helps 

dan3460

I think you missing my point, is very possible that i did not make it clear, English is not my first language. My point is that in that in the 1000-1300 level you encounter people that tries to win a game via non chess trickery or they simple abandon the game when loosing. For example, in a obvious lost position they make you wait until the end, sometimes i have to wait for 20 or more minutes. I have not encounter such behavior above the 1400 mark. I was curious if other people experience the same thing.

As for your suggestions, you may be right. I'm an old fart that picked up chess about 6 years ago. I enjoy playing, also playing in a club near my home town, but sometimes i enter on this lows where i miss clear positional or tactical moves and loose several games in a row plunging low in the 1300 level. 

GMPatzer

No, the above comment is to help to try you and move out from that 1400 rating and not slip back down also doing the tactics puzzles would help, and going over games with stronger players at your club win draw or lose, 

 

Good Luck

 

dan3460

I understand, but my question remains. The answer to the question why road A has more holes than road B is not "Don't use road A, use road B".

You probably don't spend much time playing with 1000-1300 players, so you may not have encounter the behavior that i'm describing. 

AndBell

I will sometimes use my queen to capture my opponents queen early on the game if it results in my opponent not being able to castle - they have to recapture with the king for example, then you can immediately check with a rook forcing them to move again or tie one of their minor pieces down blocking - is this the type of queen sack you are talking about?  I would only do it if has a purpose like stopping castling for example- if they can recapture with knight on c6 and still be able to castle then it is a dumb move.

dan3460

I think my English is so bad that we are passing each others thoughts. Starting to think this a mute point. Not talking about my game or sacking strategies, i'm talk about the attitude of players that live in the 1000-1300 range. 

GMPatzer

Normally the higher rated the player the less likely they are to result to that kindly behaviour however I still encounter to time to time with 1600 -  1800 crowd 

irish65

dan 3460,

I have seen that type of behavior on occasions.  I'm not sure what it is.  It's similar to these forums when you ask for help(sincerely) and you will always get a few who will tell you how stupid you are and how bad of a player you are.

dan3460

Pop-Tart, that is what i do. I was wondering if this behavior is common or is seldom seen and i just had bud luck with it.

 

torrubirubi
dan3460 wrote:

Every now and then i fall back in the low 1300s, i don't now why. I'm normally in the mid high 1400. But i lose 5 or 6 games in a row falling back to the 1300s. That would not be a problem you can climb back to your rating, but it is frustrating playing at that level.

Several times this past low i got paired with a 1200 player, both games the player sack his/her queen. In one game the player gave all the pieces by placing them in stupid squares or capturing pawn that was protected. The problem was that it will take 5 minutes on each move, he/she lost on time at the end. In the other game after a couple of minutes (i play only 30 minutes games) when he/she sacked the queen stopped playing, only to make a move with 30 seconds left on the clock.

What is the thinking of this people? Are they hoping that you will give up and resign the game?

In my experience lower rated player less than 1000 are polite and proper, same when you are over 1400. People seem to know how to play and it is enjoyable.

anyone else has experience something similar?

 

 

I can't tell you, I didn't play much games at this level. When I began to play here I was very bad in tactics but knew more about the opening, so I came quickly over 1200 in rapid. I didn't experienced much this kind of people you are talking about, but they are there.

alexandru2705

This happened to me on other chess server too. Fortunately, it's a rare occurrence, and I agree it's frustrating. That's one of the reasons I don't play at times higher than 15 min. It's, of course, a character fault - the player gets annoyed at losing to you and tries to make you angry in return, by not replying and making you waiting too much and so to get nervous. I learned to live with it. Of course, you can always block those who do this.

Ghost_Horse0
dan3460 wrote:

In my experience lower rated player less than 1000 are polite and proper, same when you are over 1400. People seem to know how to play and it is enjoyable.

I don't know.

Maybe because people below 1000 know they're beginners so when they start to lose they don't mind.

People around 1200 may not be good enough to realize how bad they are. So when someone starts winning, they feel cheated, because they thought they were really good at chess.

Then people 1300 and over are good enough to realize they're not one of the best chess players on the planet tongue.png So when they start to lose they don't take it as personally.

torrubirubi
Ghost_Horse0 wrote:
dan3460 wrote:

In my experience lower rated player less than 1000 are polite and proper, same when you are over 1400. People seem to know how to play and it is enjoyable.

I don't know.

Maybe because people below 1000 know they're beginners so when they start to lose they don't mind.

People around 1200 may not be good enough to realize how bad they are. So when someone starts winning, they feel cheated, because they thought they were really good at chess.

Then people 1300 and over are good enough to realize they're not one of the best chess players on the planet  So when they start to lose they don't take it as personally.

Seems quite reasonable. 

Ashvapathi

yeah, pretty common tactic at longer time controls and happens at all levels. That's one reason to not play longer time controls.

Ashvapathi

infact, some people even tried it against me in bullet and that too unrated bullet games. Come on, no rating is involved and it is just bullet(just a few seconds to wait) but they thought that I would just leave and they can bag the win. So, imagine how people act when ratings are involved and the time control is rapid.

madilozturk

Do not furastrate yourself, you described amazingly and clearly the point you had wanted to make. My current point in chess.com, for rapid-15mins, is fluctiating in between 1200-1300, and I have been matched with those losers for chess contest usually. My uderstanding on the psychological drive of those crafty players who deliberately stalling the game is that when they realize you have good advantage for winning, they try to find other ways like frustrating you to quit the game or just torment you because you will eventually beat them in the game. Also another possible reason might be that they stall so as to make you blunder due to the frustration of waiting too much for your oponent to make the move. My solution to this issue is just report them there is a section, called poor sportmanship/stalling, and report it with an explaination. 

clevelandguards

I'm a 1200 rated player and I hate when 1400s just abort when we play because I have beaten 1400 players but they never give me the chance to play.

Verbeena
clevelandtribe wrote:

I'm a 1200 rated player and I hate when 1400s just abort when we play because I have beaten 1400 players but they never give me the chance to play.

Are you sure they abort because of the rating difference? Doesn't make sense to abort because of that, at least not to me.

goodbye27

my opponent range is -50 \ +150 and i respect when someone doesnt want to play with me with higher rating.. they probably think they have nothing to learn from me.. it might be true and a bit wrong but still..