In any timed chess, if you are playing a time game and you lose on time, you lost. That is one of the two methods of winning. How does someone "cheese out" on a non-blitz game?
What is your opinion about players who try to win on time when dead lost?
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May 14, 2022
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#123
I am one that hates to resign, even if there's mate in one, so unless I absolutely cannot win, even on time, then I won't resign. If your opponent loses on time, then you win and they lose. It's that simple. I have saved several losing games like this, and I think it's a good strategy! If you don't respect me I don't care. It's a strategy, it's not cheating, and it works.
Nothing to add, comments read already covered it. Thank you for thy
Losing on time should be a draw if you are totally winning
Mar 3, 2024
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#126
If someone was 'totally winning' maybe they should have won within the time allowed 
Mar 3, 2024
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#127
I am fluctuating between 1300-1500. Therefor I rarely feel that neither I nor my competition can be considered to be "totally winning" at any time. We suck at chess. Let me repeat: We suck at chess.
I only resign if I feel that there is no way for me to win. If they have 30 seconds on the clock and like +6, +7 or even + 9 and I have the position or material to squeeze out a a win or a draw I will try to make that happen. People at my level play like crap pretty often if they are stressed.
Both players agree to the timer when they click start.
If you're going to whine about losing on time, stop playing speed chess.
Besides, getting flagged in a winning position is all part of the game. It happens to everyone - you're not a special snowflake for it happening to you, too.
If you lose, shrug it off and play again. There's always another game to play.
I wonder what all these “never resigners” think the resign option exists for? If resigning isn’t part of the game why does it even exist? They certainly don’t understand anything about the etiquette of the game and respecting your opponent.
Sadly I think their attitude is a reflection of general decline in manners, and a lack of respect for our fellow humans, which is so prevalent in modern society.
Sadly I think their attitude is a reflection of general decline in manners, and a lack of respect for our fellow humans, which is so prevalent in modern society.
LosingAndLearning81 wrote:
I understand like, in bullet or ultra-bullet, it's actually very much a part of the game. And even in blitz/rapid/classical when your opponent takes too long - you know that's part of the game. I am talking about situations when your opponent is dead, dead lost and they try and cheese out a victory on time. And sometimes they succeed. Sometimes not.
Here are my thoughts. I don't want to win like that. If it were me, and I were beat OTB. Positionally, tactically - whatever - I've been outplayed. I've been beaten. At chess. I don't want the win. In fact, I would resign if I thought I might win such a game. I don't expect everyone to be that way. That's just me. It's perfectly reasonable for anyone in that situation to take the victory on time. It's part of chess.
But people who don't resign, when they've been totally outclassed, hoping to win on time....I'm not talking about worse....I'm talking about dead, dead lost (down a piece in the endgame, etc), and they try and hang on and cheese out a win....I'm sorry. I have zero respect for that player as a human being.
This person said that it's part of the game and then that they shouldn't do it. Talk about confu/sed.
Mar 3, 2024
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#132
Time is a resource, just like space or material. If you squander it, you deserve to lose.
Mar 3, 2024
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#133
There were notably banter blitzes which were did by Laurent Fressinet (he's a GM but he's not a champion like Magnus Carlsen and for example he was ridiculed by Alireza Firouzja). He played also against 2000+, by playing he must read the chat, he must comment, in the end he manages to win almost all the time (and he doesn't have the abilities of a strong bot to succeed).
In short it's like losing winning games because of tactical mistakes, time is an element of the game and it's up to us to develop techniques to gain for winning positions as quickly as possible.
Time is part of the game. If your oppment has low time, go for it. It's part of the game, and if they lose on time in a winning position, it's thier fault that they didn't carry the win.
Hey, it's all part of the game. One has to learn how to "budget" their time regardless of the time control. Mic drop!
"What is your opinion about players who try to win on time when dead lost?"
++ The players who lose on time when winning should play with increment.
I’m one of those players
Mar 3, 2024
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#138
Having a superior advantage is only 50% of the win, using the clock acutely is the other 50%. In my opinion I think if you lose because of time then you didn’t deserve to win at all. The clock is a part of chess and a skill you can utilize and master
Mar 3, 2024
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#139
If your against using the clock then you can also just do classical or with increments too
Nonix88 wrote:
Losing on time should be a draw if you are totally winning
If you're totally winning and about to run out on time, maybe you're only winning because you thought about your moves longer than your opponent. So you should not get the win.
That said, I often like playing with increment so this is less of an issue. You should too. Looking at your games, you seem to play exclusively 10|0. Play 5|5 or something and timing out in won positions should be less of an issue.
I understand like, in bullet or ultra-bullet, it's actually very much a part of the game. And even in blitz/rapid/classical when your opponent takes too long - you know that's part of the game. I am talking about situations when your opponent is dead, dead lost and they try and cheese out a victory on time. And sometimes they succeed. Sometimes not.
Here are my thoughts. I don't want to win like that. If it were me, and I were beat OTB. Positionally, tactically - whatever - I've been outplayed. I've been beaten. At chess. I don't want the win. In fact, I would resign if I thought I might win such a game. I don't expect everyone to be that way. That's just me. It's perfectly reasonable for anyone in that situation to take the victory on time. It's part of chess.
But people who don't resign, when they've been totally outclassed, hoping to win on time....I'm not talking about worse....I'm talking about dead, dead lost (down a piece in the endgame, etc), and they try and hang on and cheese out a win....I'm sorry. I have zero respect for that player as a human being.
I've lost so many times after I've completely outplayed my opponent ... either to being disconnected, a blunder or on time, that I almost always take the win and rub my hands with glee.