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kenneth67
Apr 9, 2012
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#21

I do know that after one tournament they said his rating (level of play) had briefly exceeded 3000. 

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fabelhaft
Apr 9, 2012
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#22
kenneth67 wrote:

I do know that after one tournament they said his rating (level of play) had briefly exceeded 3000. 

I have my doubts about that, Jeff Sonas ranks the greatest tournament performances (he doesn't use the Elo system with which Karpov's Linares 1994 was a 2977 performance) at http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=5828

 

Best Tournament Performances of All Time

#
 Player Score/% opp. Perf. Event

1

Anatoly Karpov

11/13 (85%)

 2729 2899

Linares, 1994

2

Garry Kasparov

12/14 (86%)

 2692 2881

Tilburg, 1989

3

Emanuel Lasker

18/22 (82%)

 2667 2878

London, 1899

4

Garry Kasparov

10.5/14 (75%)

 2758 2877

Linares, 1999

5

Mikhail Tal

20/28 (71%)

 2716 2869

Bled/Zagreb/Belgrade (Cand.), 1959

6

Alexander Alekhine

13/14 (93%)

 2626 2865

San Remo, 1930

7

Garry Kasparov

10/13 (77%)

 2737 2863

Linares, 1993

8

Alexander Alekhine

19.5/24 (81%)

 2644 2859

Bled, 1931

9

Garry Kasparov

11.5/15 (77%)

 2715 2856

Belfort (World Cup), 1988

10

Garry Kasparov

10/13 (77%)

 2728 2855

Linares, 1992

11

Emanuel Lasker

11.5/16 (72%)

 2738 2853

St. Petersburg, 1914

12

Garry Kasparov

 9/12 (75%)

 2744 2851

Amsterdam (Optiebeurs), 1988

13

Garry Kasparov

9.5/11 (86%)

 2682 2850

Belgrade (Investbank), 1989
 

Bobby Fischer

18.5/23 (80%)

 2643 2850

Palma de Mallorca (Interzonal), 1970
 

Mikhail Botvinnik

14/20 (70%)

 2729 2850

The Hague/Moscow (WCh), 1948
 

Magnus Carlsen

 8/10 (80%)

 2733 2850

Nanjing, 2009

17

Siegbert Tarrasch

29/39 (74%)

 2650 2846

Vienna, 1898

18

Garry Kasparov

8.5/11 (77%)

 2733 2845

Linares, 1997

19

Johannes Zukertort

22.5/29 (78%)

 2641 2844

London, 1883

20

Garry Kasparov

11/14 (79%)

 2691 2840

Niksic, 1983
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Conflagration_Planet
Apr 9, 2012
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#23

Before he got coached, I said.

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kenneth67
Apr 9, 2012
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#24

ok, but for fabelhaft I found the article written in chess.com a few years back by Bill Wall, and I copy the paragraph:

"Highest performance rating.  Bobby Fischer had the highest performace rating of 3080 when he defeated Bent Larsen by the score of 6-0.  In the 2007 Candidates matches, Gata Kamsky had a 3047 performance rating after defeating Etienne Bacrot (rated 2709) with 3 wins and a draw.  In 1989, Sofia Polgar had a peformance rating of over 2900 when she scored 8.5 out of 9 in an international tournament in Rome."

link:  http://www.chess.com/article/view/records-in-chess

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fabelhaft
Apr 9, 2012
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#25
kenneth67 wrote:

ok, but for fabelhaft I found the article written in chess.com a few years back by Bill Wall, and I copy the paragraph:

"Highest performance rating.  Bobby Fischer had the highest performace rating of 3080 when he defeated Bent Larsen by the score of 6-0.  In the 2007 Candidates matches, Gata Kamsky had a 3047 performance rating after defeating Etienne Bacrot (rated 2709) with 3 wins and a draw.  In 1989, Sofia Polgar had a peformance rating of over 2900 when she scored 8.5 out of 9 in an international tournament in Rome."

link:  http://www.chess.com/article/view/records-in-chess

Performance ratings get a bit weird in matches though. Kamsky's beating Bacrot turns into a better performance than anything Kasparov or Karpov ever did, even if no one thinks Kamsky played 3047 chess against Bacrot or that he ever could reach such an Elo performance in a tournament.

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AndyClifton
Apr 12, 2012
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#26

Ah, the legendary Jeff Sonas makes yet another appearance...