what level on this site is considered a Patzer??

xGNRxCrimpy
I feel I have at least a basic understanding of strategy and tactics in the
Is game but I'm only around 1150 most of the time so I was curious as to what would be considered a Patzer?? I feel I can play with most 1500 and below players?
Pashak1989

Yes, you are a patzer

masterfowler

yay!return of the word patzer...again...pfffft

yorygregovich

Anybody who has a lower rating.

yorygregovich

Exactly, it is all relative.

sea_of_trees

Quién es este patzero?

bb_gum234

Yeah, patzer is relative and more of an insult, not a specific level of play.

But if you're curious about ratings here, I'd expect a beginner (a real beginner, not someone who has learned many years ago) to be rated well under 1000.

I also randomly selected 2 of your games that went over 40 moves (one win and one loss), and you're developing pieces and castling.

So I agree with your assessment. You've learned the basics.

Although even that word, "basics" changes depending on the level of player you talk to. As an extreme example, I've seen top GMs give commentary that they know "nothing" about an opening, then in the next sentence quote 20 moves from memory from a game played 5 years ago. To them this is just general knowledge everyone (every one of their peers) knows. To them "knowing" the opening means they've prepared it at a professional level. To a new player "knowing" an opening means if you're shown 1.e4 e6 you can say "french" tongue.png

So when I say you know the basics, I'm thinking of beginner basics like you know how to checkmate with king and queen (endgame), you know the opening principals (opening), you know what a fork and pin are (tactics), you know what a doubled pawn and passed pawn are (strategy). That stuff. In your games I see you making what I would call basic errors, but that doesn't mean you're terrible or know nothing. As other posters said, if someone 400 or more points above me looked at my games, they'd point out a lot of errors that are basic to them.

RALRAL3333

Patzer should be used to describe a large rating gap, around 500 pts, I would say. So a 1000 rated player is a patzer to a 1500 rated player, and a 2000 rated player is a patzer to a GM

BestContinuation

Anybody who's not cheating

yorygregovich

On this site I would suspect most people would view me as a patzer but with the small number of people who play chess among my friends they think I am really good. My friends, the ones who do not play, think I am some kind of chess god. 

Monie49
Patzer = Fish!
MickinMD

To me, there's an abrupt increase on chess.com in overall understanding of chess as you get around 1700-1800 daily-rated. Around that level you see better maneuvering in closed positions, better understanding of how to use a Knight, how to use a Passed Pawn, how to plan, etc.

From comments I've seen, I think a higher Rapid, Blitz, or Bullet rating is needed to reach the same plateau.

 

RALRAL3333
BestContinuation wrote:

Anybody who's not cheating

Haha

xGNRxCrimpy
Thank you @UtrechtRose for the help! And not being too demeaning. Also bb_gum I appreciate the assessments! Sometime you should challenge me in a non rated and correct some of my mistakes. Thanks guys!
masterfowler
ciarli wrote:

Patzer is an army tank!

You mean Panzer?

Pashak1989

Chess players are really weird. Only for them "Patzer" (That does not really even have a meaning) or "Fish" can be very offensive. 

Pashak1989

And the meaning is "You suck at chess", that's all. 

It is not that Patzer means "2Q1C" or something really offensive like that. 

bb_gum234
Pashak1989 wrote:

Chess players are really weird. Only for them "Patzer" (That does not really even have a meaning) or "Fish" can be very offensive. 

Most (all?) competitions have their unique lingo.

MuensterChess

xGNRxCrimpy wrote:

I feel I have at least a basic understanding of strategy and tactics in the
Is game but I'm only around 1150 most of the time so I was curious as to what would be considered a Patzer?? I feel I can play with most 1500 and below players?

I consider a patzer anyone rated lower than the entry rating of 1200 on this site. These people reguarly miss free peices, and checkmate in one. In my opinion a patzer is anyone who reguarly misses one move tactics. A patzer is also someone who usually plays blitz and bullet for fun, and is not intending to improve his/her game.

cfpaul

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