What squares do I put the kings on to signal: Black win, White win or a Draw?

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I noticed that after games in elite tournaments, the arbiters sometimes place the kings on squares in the middle of the board, to signal one of the 3 results.

I'm guessing it's king's placed on d4 and e5 for a Black win as these are dark sqs, then e4 and d5 for White win, I'm not sure where to put the kings for a draw though. Also I could be wrong about my reasoning for the other two. I've tried to find it in the rules somewhere but can't seem to find it. Any help would be appreciated as I'm interested to know the answer to this question.

Best regards,

Methodchess

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Wht? there's no such rule man. ..

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I have seen arbiters do it.

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I didn't know that such an idea existed. Anyway, to me it would make sense to put a white king anywhere on the board for a white win, a black king for a black win and both kings for a draw.

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It's  not a rule but a requirement for the DGT boards to tell the software the game outcome. Both kings on white/light-squares, 1-0. Both on black/dark-squares 0-1. One on each color 1/2-1/2.

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e4 and d5 = white win

d4 and e5 = black win

e4 and e5 (or d4 and d5 I think) = draw

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dpnorman wrote:

e4 and d5 = white win

d4 and e5 = black win

e4 and e5 (or d4 and d5 I think) = draw

Yes, I had a video from you tube calle 'the blunder' where GM Meier (black) blunders queen. At the end the arbiter put the white king on e4 and the black one on d5. I didn't know what it meant before.

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Thanks guys, makes sense. I guess it's probably e4 and e5 for draw as king's start on e1 and e8, therefore it makes sense to keep them on the same file for a draw. Maybe it doesn't matter though and can put them on d4 and d5 too.

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The information is on the DGT site, no guessing required 

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shine5 wrote:
dpnorman wrote:

e4 and d5 = white win

d4 and e5 = black win

e4 and e5 (or d4 and d5 I think) = draw

Yes, I had a video from you tube calle 'the blunder' where GM Meier (black) blunders queen. At the end the arbiter put the white king on e4 and the black one on d5. I didn't know what it meant before.

Oh really? Interesting.. Can i get a link to that video?

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What is this thing/ situation or whatever.. called?

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@chamaria17e, here's the link- > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7cGevJArvoM

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Martin_Stahl wrote:

It's  not a rule but a requirement for the DGT boards to tell the software the game outcome. Both kings on white/light-squares, 1-0. Both on black/dark-squares 0-1. One on each color 1/2-1/2.

 

I was wrong, it is a rule. Section 6.5 of the Competition Rules.

www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/Competition_Rules.pdf

 

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By the rules of FIDE are the arbiters responsible for correctly placing the kings or the players ?  Also , who resets the pieces for the next game , arbiters or players ?  

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In FIDE events I played in the players were responsible for resetting the pieces after their game , for the next game/round . 

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Reb wrote:

By the rules of FIDE are the arbiters responsible for correctly placing the kings or the players ?  Also , who resets the pieces for the next game , arbiters or players ?  

 

That PDF says either the arbiter or the players can set the kings.

 

As to setting up the pieces, it doesn't say. My guess is those rules are mainly for high-level, invitation events.

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I dont know if its a rule or not but I do know from playing in FIDE events that the players are expected to reset the pieces after their game , for the next game/round . 

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@shine5 thanks for the link.. :)

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at about 50 seconds they do the king thing

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if both kings on white middle squares : white won 
both on black: black won 
both squares : draw