What will happen if chess got solved?

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NoemiS05
Optimissed wrote:
NoemiS05 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
NoemiS05 wrote:

Nothing would happen, except there'd be more draws in matches between cheaters. Computers aren't eligible for the World Chess Championship or other big competitions, and the best GMs can't even beat current Stockfish consistently, so it would make little difference to the sport if engines perfected chess.

Hello.

Or even little difference to the game??? Is it a good idea, when trying to make a point, to bring in political issues? Do you think that the argument regarding chess being/not being a sport is a political one? Seems it to me/.

I'm using "sport" loosely as something like "competitive game". Esports would be similar. What does politics have to do with anything? Game seems like more casual word to me, something done with friends, rather than professional. But maybe there is a better word in English for what I mean that I don't know

Oh ok. Putting it into perspective, people talk about a game of poker where thousands or £/$ can be won or lost. But fair enough.

Well people also talk about a game of tennis in a set which makes up a match lol. It is just words really. We know what we mean grin.png

DiogenesDue
Optimissed wrote:

And I think he was misrepresenting. I disagree with some of what tygxc claims but very often it isn't critical, one way or another, to his argument. Just a matter of a few dozen factors of ten in a situation which is unreal anyway. Therefore making an unimportant point by means of misrepresenting an unimportant claim doesn't seem very ...... very something anyway.

Sensible?

People are starting to comment with "interesting" as a response to trolling responses.

Anyone with reasonable powers of observation could tell you that the OP is posting "Hmm." and "Interesting," over and over again to bump their post to the top of recent posts/hot topics.

You just don't seem to be very good at perception, observation, or interpretation.

playerafar
Optimissed wrote:
playerafar wrote:

tygxc doesn't understand another thing apparently.
Burden of proof.
He has the burden to prove his 'reductions' are valid.
But its a burden he'll never meet.
Whether trying to or not.
He continues to misunderstand about current engines playing each other too.
Should anybody be 'annoyed' by his attitude about that?
Suggestion: the correct answer is 'No with reasons. Because we expect this from him. Is one of the reasons.'
Why does he do this? He partly gave himself away one day ...
but - can't talk about it here.

Try to write in English and I might read your posts. Same goes for others, I expect.

If I could, I'd start with a -1 but you can't downvote your own posts, which seems unfair.

O has a delusion that I would care whether he reads my posts?
I would expect much dishonesty from him though about whether he reads my posts or not.
As for his replies - they're nearly always mispremised.
And at the beginning too.
Instant skip of the rest of his post in each case.
He's constantly beaten too.
Usually takes the form of whoever beating him as
him conceding by calling whoever 'psychopath - troll - alt account' and some little pathetic noise about IQ scores and grammar. He's got Nothing. Everyone else does much better. Even EE does better.

BigChessplayer665
Doves-creek wrote:

If chess got solved the other forum topic wouldnt have anything to talk about.

Good

playerafar
Doves-creek wrote:

If chess got solved the other forum topic wouldnt have anything to talk about.

If chess gets solved the planets won't align.
And it won't cause Burger King to beat out McDonald's.
And West Ham won't be playing all their games against Manchester at night.
And it won't cause Bill Gates to recover his wealth lead over Elon Musk because Bill gives away a lot of money.
Bill is probably the best person in history at getting paid.
Which is very paradoxical in view of him donating so much money.
He would have probably hit a trillion by now if he'd prioritized a trillion.
But chess being solved would be equally unimportant.

playerafar
Doves-creek wrote:

Everybody is afected.😑

Everybody is Ben Afflekted.

playerafar

happy

playerafar

Uh oh.
Dc only joined chess.com yesterday.
Maybe we'll now get another 'what are you trying to say?'

Jokey

Hmm.

tygxc

@244

"When is your paper coming out" ++ All credit goes to the late GM Sveshnikov, who predicted it.

"now that chess is solved" ++ The 17 ICCF Finalists are doing it.

playerafar
tygxc wrote:

@244

"When is your paper coming out" ++ All credit goes to the late GM Sveshnikov, who predicted it.

"now that chess is solved" ++ The 17 ICCF Finalists are doing it.

wasn't it 'have done it' before?
Now tygxc is saying 'are doing it'.

Jokey

Hmm.

Vossie_YT

Here you can vote who is the best forum creator

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/who-is-the-funniest-best-and-most-cool-of-all-players-in-forums?

DiogenesDue
VossieYT wrote:

Here you can vote who is [snip]

Stop spamming.

Jokey

Interesting.

International-Grandpatzer

So let me get this straight: there are people in this thread who are actually suggesting that chess, when solved, will not be a draw?

It's pure romanticism. White begins in zugzwang! Or white begins with forced mate! Sorry, but that's just not the real world.

Chess is drawn.

I wonder if it's even possible for white to lose the game on the first move. And I would dare to suggest that even after 1. h4 or 1. g4, the position is still drawn.

DiogenesDue
International-Grandpatzer wrote:

So let me get this straight: there are people in this thread who are actually suggesting that chess, when solved, will not be a draw?

It's pure romanticism. White begins in zugzwang! Or white begins with forced mate! Sorry, but that's just not the real world.

Chess is drawn.

I wonder if it's even possible for white to lose the game on the first move. And I would dare to suggest that even after 1. h4 or 1. g4, the position is still drawn.

...and when you can prove that with scientific rigor, you'll have something. Right now you have an opinion, and while most of us also agree with your opinion, most people also know their opinions are not proof.

Santoy

Nothing would happen. We would still be enjoying the game amongst fellow dumb-asses.

If Magnus could play perfect chess, what difference would it make to us ?

playerafar
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
playerafar wrote:
tygxc wrote:

@244

"When is your paper coming out" ++ All credit goes to the late GM Sveshnikov, who predicted it.

"now that chess is solved" ++ The 17 ICCF Finalists are doing it.

wasn't it 'have done it' before?
Now tygxc is saying 'are doing it'.

As I said he is a low IQ B.S artist. And makes claims that are provably wrong.

And what would be even funnier. Is if he actually believes his own B.S....

People who keep making false claims - don't much care whether they believe their own garbage or not - so they don't even consult with themselves about that. Aren't aware.
And often vacillate between deceit and blind belief and also self-contradiction.
To try to escape from the embarassment of self-contradiction - they'll make a lot of 'water is wet' statements that don't prove their points but try to pretend they do.
And its nearly always 'trolling' too.
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But in tygxc's case - he doesn't try to make his disinformation as about other people in the forum (unlike O) which means tygxc's behaviour doesn't qualify under the usual definitions of trolling.
This catches a lot of people a bit off balance.
Or its a novelty or change.
And tygxc thereby gets a lot of attention.
He works very hard to push his disinformation - but without 'trolling' as it were.

Jokey

Huh?