What would be the rating of a top chess player in the late 1800s today

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The second last variant is not applicable.

The last one is too strenuous. (Maybe not!)

Because you're a cyborg?

I was a USCF B class player a few years ago, and I thought that I was pretty good. I used computers a lot, too. Still do.

I've been A Class since 2009 and with an ambition to bust through 2000, I'm finding that less computer analysis is necessary. I perform my own analysis of classic games (see an example at http://chessskill.blogspot.com/2014/09/la-bourdonnaiss-infantry.html), then compare my analysis to the work of masters, then sometimes check with a computer.

Kasparov said, "we are all children of Informant." Check out the references to Chess Informant on my blog if you want to become an A Class player.

Without an engine, I would not have been able to make a proper analysis of my games, and the same goes for you.  sure there are times an engine prefers "odd" moves, that's why I mysef decide whether the egine's preffered move is good or bad.  Nevertheless, with the guidance of my computer engine, I can make very objective analysis of my games.  you're own analysis is just not good enough.

engines are for wimps.

Chess is not about just playing.  Analysis of one's own game is very important.  You cannot make a proper analysis of your games without the aid of an engine.  If you could careless about improvement, or if you just don't care at all, then of course it won't matter to you.  And besides, analyzing my games with an engine is even more fun then actually playing.  For me chess is not fun actually.  I take my chess seriously.  As low as my rating is, I take chess very very seriously.  I for one want to learn from my mistakes.  It's that important to me.  I don't if you are a better chess player then me, it's my chess life, and that's how I like it.

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Frank Zappa - The Muffin Man.

Oh boy oh boy, that's really bad

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People here have such lite faith in older masters. Go over their games with stockfish and you'll see many like Capablanca and Lasker are more accurate than guys like Caruana or Aronian.

"Kids below 1800 are as good as Ivanchuk aged players." BS!!!!!!! I don't believe it for a second.

Magikstone wrote:

Dude, you have been studying chess games of the old master and how high is your is your rating?  Exactly, your method is not working.  Are you improving?  Am I improving?  yes I am.  will I reach 2000 USCF soon?  Yes I will and then you will be forced to consider my method, and burn all your capablanca books and end game books.  

I already reach expert level to your 1700 elo, so studying past master games has help me, especially Morphy, Capablanca, Alekhnie, Fischer and Karpov, aaah!! I view a lot the modern GMs games, especially Carlsen and Anand. No you won't reach expert level, you don't have chess knowledge, your mickey mouse system won't guide you when you get to unfamilar position; it takes real chess knowledge to assess correctly unfamilar territory and make the best plan according to your chess knowledge. Like I say the higher you go up the more tougher is your opponents and if you think you don't need to calculate well,and will find out the hard way. Real chess knowledge will help you in any unfamilar situation and guide you; if you have not study and put in the time don't expect to go any higher than B-class.

Incredible.  You know how blessed us chess players are to have computers be so strong and powerful at chess?  Those guys from the past who had to work on their own, they would have loved to have the opportunity to have an engine assist them.  Incredible.  for the majority of my life that I have been a chess player, there were no computer engines around, or rather I did not even know about their existence.  It is the computer that has helped get better, increased my knowledge.  every chess player should be happy to live in the computer era, yet here we have a lot of chess players saying forget computers.  

lay off the booze Magik!

I'm gonna booze up and reread his rants. Mebbe they'll make more sense then.

I already tried that. My laughter simply went from a chuckle to hysterics.

He said kids below 18.

http://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?list=juniors

Wei, Yi is a good kid.

has anyone ever fallen into a laughing bog ?

you know, one of dem things like quicksand.

you fall in and it kinda bubbles but the bubbles are all laughing at you.

Makes more sense.

I think that the computer as a learning and analyzing tool is some overestimated, but I believe that internetchess has been very helpful, because it has given millions of people the opportunity to get good competing, not only in the chess clubs.

Videoes is helpful too.

Still I think the best training is competing and analyzing with GM´s, but this isnt much available for everybody.

Anand was fantastic before the computerage.

The Russians were fantastic before the computerage, and  they had at the time most access to GM-training and competing.

Maybe the strongest talent in my club, Andreas Garberg Tryggestad, 12 years old, now leading the masterclass in our clubchampionship with 6 victories in six games, had a lot of Gm-lessons, and also help from his very strong father. Magnus Carlsen also has a strong father, the same goes for William Sandberg Olsen.

So a strong father, a good club and some IM and GM help + active competing in many otb-tournaments is efficient. Tore Garberg is raising more kids, and two of them has collected Kid- Norwegian championships.

I won my section again for the sixth or seventh time in a row.  My new rating is 1828.  My method clearly works, but I am finding out that most chess players don't care about improvement, they just want to play chess for fun.