When does chess become chess?

Below is the first time I've ever tried to play a 30 minute game. I did this because people say its better so you are not rushed on time. However, what I'm running into is people I'm playing no matter what opening, no matter what "mode" I play, wants to do these cheap opening tricks to get a quick win. I understand its probably fascincating beyong belief to play a game of chess that last 30 seconds but to me this is getting really old. As soon as I learn how to defend one way, something like below happens... every single time... I'm getting so tired of playing people that just want to bring their queen out for a quick win. I literally want to quit every time someone brings their queen out so early cause I know I'm gonna wrapping my brain trying to figure out.... oh boy here we go again. So back to my main question, when does chess actually become chess and not this lame defending quick queen checkmates.

It can happen at any level when you find people who actually care about the game. I am only rated around 1000 on here but I find people who are legit about chess every now and again. But I would probably guess it doesn't happen consistently until 1800+, maybe even 1600 but I have seen games at that level with scholar mate attempts

That is a well known trap, taking that pawn was a major blunder, use it as a learning experience. When you get better it will stop happening, people stop trying those things at about 1600 (just like Mechhand said)

Blackburn's mating trap! I used that too when I was a beginner lol.

Dont worry, this is normal for everyone, you need to learn all opening traps available.

I learned how to defend all that stuff by losing against it! No other way around it. 

In some sense this never goes away. In a recent tournament game I won an important pawn, so my desperate opponent went all out to attack my king. The game becomes either I find a defense and win, or I don't find a defense and I lose. There are many skills required for playing chess well. Finding the opponent's threats, judging whether you can ignore them, and defending the ones you can't ignore is very important.

First of all chess is always chess. Your opponents may not be opening according to principals, but that doesn't mean you can automatically win. The game would be boring if it were just about following a list of rules.

Anyway, I think quick queen openings stop before 1600... but again, to some extent this never goes away. There are always people who specialize in tricky openings. There are also solid classical players who will try tricky bad openings if they think they're much better than you.

Yeah, definitely.

If it makes you feel any better @MrCPA12 I've lost tons of games like the one you posted. I remember losing like this multiple times:

I never blundered like that as Black because I used to see tons of opening trap videos on youtube, but I do remember losing to tricky and unprincipled lines.

I didn't have any books or videos when I started. I just thought it was fun and learned the first 6 months or so the hard way...

When I finally found out there were "tricks" like forks and pins I thought that was so cool haha.

If you can manage to only fall for each stupid trick ONCE, you will improve rapidly.

8 .. Nc3+ 9 Be2 Qe2#

I've seen that sooo many times. I hate traps with a fiery passion. Not just because they're easy to make mistakes against. But the people who play them didn't come up with them. They're just ripping off a much smarter player to take advantage of someone who hasn't seen it before. It's not in the true spirit of chess.

I dont like Xplayer, cries when someone trolls in his threads but then he comes and usually writes like a kid with some mental retardation because he apparently doesnt know what a paragraph is.

Okay, stick to basics .... Castle as soon as possible .... develop your pieces .. And re asses your game using an engine for faster blunder check ... Play a lot of games.. Chess is the art of attacking and defending ....

And my answer to your question is: chess becomes chess if you play chess.

Cheers mate!!

the_venom

"Cheap" win?  Sore loser?

Only giving you a hard time.  I know what you mean, however, you took the pawn and invited the Queen out.  I don't think there was anything "cheap" about white's play.

As you said, you have time.  You hadn't yet developed your pieces.  Watch your undefended pieces before attacking.

If someone brings out their Queen early it may be an opportunity for you to school and punish them .  Follow the principles of developing your pieces and if the Queen comes out early take the time to see what it can attack.

Knowing what you know now, after 4. ...Qg5 what would you play next?  Or better, was there a continue developing and/or attack the Knight after 3. ...Nd4 (Nf3 is well defended and if he wanted the exchange he would be very under developed)?

I think chess will be less about defending against Queen attacks when your opponent knows you won't fall for the tricks.  That means when you no longer make mistakes that allow them to attack with the Queen.

Every noob loses to tricks. I remember getting spanked by the lasker trap in the albin counter gambit. Only fell for It once though, I booked up on that nonsense!

@BronsteinPawn I don't think one needs to learn *ALL* opening traps.  Rather, they need to take the time to understand and practice the principles of the opening (https://www.chess.com/article/view/the-principles-of-the-opening).

Don't worry, just remember what went wrong and progress to the next phase of chess frustration: getting ahead in games and then losing the plot and finally the game. Haha!!