Rich, you say asking someone to resign can be mean but yet you seem to have no problem making your opponent wait for your time to run out in a completely lost game. You may hate resigning but don't just refuse to move and let your time expire that is just rude.
ok here it is i'm just here to play chess not make enemys.i always thought the point of this game was to win not make someone quit so here i sit the whipping boy of the when to resign forum. so be it.if u play me i will make u prove u can win if thats wrong, oh well.
when i start i game i say hello and regardless of a win or loss i say goodgame if thats poor sportsmanship then i guess i'm a poor sport
I admit, if my opponent had two queens, and promoted a pawn to a third, I'd probably stick around and see if I got a stalemate.
Against someone with demonstrable mating experience, I think not resigning would be a waste of time. But when I'm against a rook, bishop, and a queen, and my opponent keeps promoting - either they're just messing with you, or not easily able to checkmate, which makes stalemate an entirely valid possibility.
i checkmated a two guy with two queens but they didn't give up. and i'm going to checkmate a guy with a queen none of them gave up (are givibg up) i don't see the point in wasting your time for a game your going to lose
I'm amazed at the number of people commiserating with the original poster. Stalemate is better than a loss, and if you think you can get one, it's within the rules of chess to try to get one. Even if you DON'T think you can get one, it's within the rules.
If you're going to play chess, you have to play it with all the rules, not just the ones you feel are in keeping with your subjective version of "good sportsmanship."
Chess is very objective. The rules are the rules. If you want to make up some "street rules," for example, where it's implicitly agreed that a person surrenders if down a certain amount of pawns, then agree on those rules prior to the beginning of the game. Otherwise, suck it up and play it out, offer a draw, or resign.
The time on the internet costing money is a poor excuse. It costs a lot of money to play golf, so guess what? I don't play it if I don't have the money to play it. That's your personal choice, and you DO have options. Wait for the move e-mail, for example.
Often when it is clear I am losing - and going to lose - but not getting crushed, I will continue in large part to see how my opponent approaches the finish.
Especially if it is something a little tricky (pawn endings, etc)
You're avoiding the point of this argument almost as cleverly as you avoided the checkmate for so long in your game.
Ockham,
I would expect no less logical a point from a member by that name. Good reply.
I've never been to Mars, either, but I'm pretty sure the rules are still the rules there.
Ockham, you're distorting the issue. Of course a player is well within their right at the end of the day. I've said as much above.
Let me go check your game history and see if you've ever resigned... see if you play lost games through to the last move. What turn would've you resigned in the game I posted? What turn would've you resigned in Larla's game? Don't tell me you wouldn't have in either, assuming those were the moves you were somehow locked in by fate to play...
Ah nevermind. I hate arguing on the internets anyways. Everyone do whatever the hell you like.
When to resign: When you feel like it.
When to resent your opponent not resigning: Never.
I just received today this message on the chat of an ongoing game where i am slightly losing..."You will loose, so you resign is better !!...
As you all can read, he is encouraging me to resign because i already lost????, is like i dont have the right to fight for a draw, or to wait for a mistake, it will be hard for me to equal the game, is very probably that i am going to lose, but something is sure, is not sure that i am going to loose, and just for reading that, i will take up to three days each single move, i hope the game ends in a few months or more, if I am able to, that game, that is in the 27th move will last until next year, good luck dear opponent!!!!
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