When to take on C4 in QGD??

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0ww0

I seen master games when black takes the dxe4 after a few moves in the QGD.  But I also read that black shouldn't take c4 pawn at any time in the QGD (Wikipedia)

 

 Am I confusing something?

0ww0

(Moving to opening discussion)

thegreat_patzer

if black Immediately takes the c4 pawn it is NOT the QGD.

 

it is the Queen Gambit Accepted opening and that opening is a fine acceptable opening; played as you say at the highest level of the game.

 

now if black quickly takes the c4 pawn and tries to keep it; it can quickly fall for a trap.

 

most chessplayers know these trap lines; and it you blindly don't consider what white can do; you can find yourself dropping a knight, bishop or rook at the beginning of the game.

 

this is NO reason to NOT play queens gambit accepted; but it is a good reason to become familiar with the trap; espacially if you play that opening during blitz....

thegreat_patzer

I also think you are misreading wiki;  to suggest that when white plays the QGD he will "never" take the c4 pawn.  but the focus of the QGD is to look for a positional advantage first

 

as the game goes toward endgame ofc most pawns will be exchanged.

 

its kind of one of those situations where you learn about how a given opening works; then try to understand the positional and tactical consequences of your opening choices.

 

0ww0
BobbyTalparov wrote:

Typically, black tries to wait for White to develop his light square bishop (usually to d3) before taking on c4. This forces white to waste a tempo instead of being able to develop his bishop and capture on c4 at the same time.

That makes sense

0ww0
thegreat_patzer wrote:

I also think you are misreading wiki;  to suggest that when white plays the QGD he will "never" take the c4 pawn.  but the focus of the QGD is to look for a positional advantage first

 

as the game goes toward endgame ofc most pawns will be exchanged.

 

its kind of one of those situations where you learn about how a given opening works; then try to understand the positional and tactical consequences of your opening choices.

 

Thanks. Also I should've mentioned I know what a QIA (immediate c4 take on move 3) to avoid any confusion. My apologies.