Which World Champion Played The Most Moves Like Rybka?

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Avatar of zankfrappa


     Now that Rybka is over 3000 and chess experts are reviewing old games, I am wondering which former World Champion played moves that Rybka picked as the top move.
     I am especially curious about Fischer, Tal, Morphy, and Capablanca.  Since many pick Fischer as the greatest ever I would like to see how many times per game the crucial moves he played Rybka would have played.
     Capablanca's endgames would be interesting to see as many have said he
always picked the right move.
     Tal would be interesting because his games were often exciting and risky
and used amazing tactics like Rybka often does.
     Morphy would be interesting because there is such debate on what his
historic Elo should be.
     Are there any books out yet that have dealt with this subject?

Avatar of rrrttt

on methods of "comparing the best chess players" in wikipedia, it says that according to strong computers, Capablanca followed closely by Kramnik, made the fewest errors.

Note, the computer was crafty

Avatar of orangehonda

If you take many games for an average instead of just one exceptional game (such as super GM vs no name in 20 moves has a 98% agreement) you find that all the greats were roughly equal with their moves matching rybka's 1st/2nd/3rd pick -- I forgot the percentages but the unbreakable barrier is something like 60%/75%/85%

This is surprising as you would think that modern GMs train with comptuers so may play more computer like moves, and that theory has evolved etc.

Avatar of Ytse_Ham

It sounds dandy to take computer analyses as measures of GM play, but it often occurs that the games followed great moves and the computer wants to play moves that only computers can play.

Avatar of zankfrappa

orangehonda,

Do you remember where you read those statistics?

Avatar of goldendog

The highest top-3 matchup I've seen for a bunch of games is Fischer's Candidates series:

{ Fischer R (Games: 21) } [scoring 18.5/21 in 1971 Candidates matches]
{ Top 1 Match: 378/602 ( 62.8% )
{ Top 2 Match: 495/602 ( 82.2% )
{ Top 3 Match: 534/602 ( 88.7% )

Source: forums at RHP

Avatar of TheOldReb

Has a matchup been done for the Alekhine/Capablanca WC match ?  Both players were playing both sides of the QGD and there were many draws, with more than 30 games total.

Avatar of goldendog

Yes stevecollyer did Capa-Alekhine:

Result for all games analysed (22):

Alekhine
Top 1 Match: 467/852 (54,8% )
Top 2 Match: 622/852 (73,0% )
Top 3 Match: 685/852 (80,4% )

Capablanca
Top 1 Match: 470/853 (55,1% )
Top 2 Match: 632/853 (74,1% )
Top 3 Match: 703/853 (82,4% )

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Capablanca gets the nod as most "error free" in this article:

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3455

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The original article looks at this proposition in several ways. They offer explanations for each try.

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     Perhaps it's best not to play like a computer but a human-computer hybrid.

However, since Rybka is now at 3200+ to be better the human-computer
hybrid will have to play at 3300+.