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GenghisCant
Apr 1, 2013
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#301

Well, you just went off on a speech explaining that he couldn't be bought and didn't care about money. Holding up a world title match until they give you more money proves that he very much cared about money.

Eventually Jim Slater doubled the prize fund and, surprise surprise, Fischer played no problem. That is being bought.

You and TetsuoShima should get together and write a book...

'The History of Bobby Fischer (As We Choose to Believe it)' by Capa and Tetsuo

 

 

 

That can be your front cover. You could probably get News International to publish it. They get by in a morally grey area anyway.

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#302
yamzkie21 wrote:

being a WC for 27 years is hard to break.........Emmanuel Lasker is the best......he also holds the record for being the highest rated 67 year old.....having an ELO rating of 2691 @ that age is hard to imagine....how much more when his at his peak?

All true but capablanca clobbered him 4-0 in world championship   and their lifetime score was 6-2 in capa's favor.    furthermore, lasker played against janowski, marshall and tarrasch and avoided capablanca and rubinstein.   only reason he played capablanca was he needed money after first world war.   as far back as 1908 when capa was only 20 and beat lasker and won a blitz tournament in new york lasker said it is absolutely amazing you never seem to make any mistakes to capa.....    remember capa has the best win loss ratio in history.   he went 86 games without a loss.  
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AndyClifton
Apr 1, 2013
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#303

And then of course there was agreeing to play for $5 million in 1992 (when he needed the bread) after he had already turned down $5 million to play in 1975.

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#304
AndyClifton wrote:

Okay, I have all those qualifications.  Now what?

now all you need is to do this objectively and see for yourself.   i respect your opinion but i am backing mine with facts.

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AndyClifton
Apr 1, 2013
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#305

You're actually making me yearn to hear from Nizman again...

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#306
Genghiskhant wrote:

Well, you just went off on a speech explaining that he couldn't be bought and didn't care about money. Holding up a world title match until they give you more money proves that he very much cared about money.

Eventually Jim Slater doubled the prize fund and, surprise surprise, Fischer played no problem. That is being bought.

You and TetsuoShima should get together and write a book...

'The History of Bobby Fischer (As We Choose to Believe it)' by Capa and Tetsuo

 

 

 

 

That can be your front cover. You could probably get News International to publish it. They get by in a morally grey area anyway.

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GenghisCant
Apr 1, 2013
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#307

Ahh, I see now. He doesn't care about money as long as he has some.

That man just cannot be bought...... Unless he's broke.

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blueemu
Apr 1, 2013
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#308
Genghiskhant wrote:

Ahh, I see now. He doesn't care about money as long as he has some.

That man just cannot be bought...... Unless he's broke.

It's sort of like taking a vow against swimming. You swear to yourself that you'll never, ever go swimming.

... unless you happen to find yourself over your head in water.

...

... it beats drowning.

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AndyClifton
Apr 1, 2013
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#309

"And dammit, where's all my stuff from that storage box?!"

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#310

did he or didnt he turn down so many offers for promoting cars, shampoos and God knows what else after 1972????     you know the guy who offered him $50000 just to talk to him and see him for an hour so he could play 1 game for his club in europe???    fischer reluctantly met him and then returned $30000 to him because he liked him.   he was offered over $100000 to promote some chrysler in 1972.  all he had to say was the ride was very comfortable.   Fischer tried it and said keep your money , i will not lie to public.   hope that finally clears it up for you.

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GenghisCant
Apr 1, 2013
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#311
blueemu wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:

Ahh, I see now. He doesn't care about money as long as he has some.

That man just cannot be bought...... Unless he's broke.

It's sort of like taking a vow against swimming. You swear to yourself that you'll never, ever go swimming.

... unless you happen to find yourself over your head in water.

...

... it beats drowning.

I completely agree. I don't judge him for it either.

I just wouldn't include a statement about how he couldn't be bought in my fanboy posts, at the same time as telling others they should 'study chess history' before judging him.

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#312
Nizman wrote:

chessman1504 wrote:

I would say Kasparov. Kasparov was...

1. World champion for 15 years.

2. The first to break the 2800 barrier.

3. The youngest classical world champion ever.

4. Won 10 super-GM tournaments in a row(!)

5. Didn't lose an event from December 1981 to February 1991.

6. Had the world number 1 rating for 255 months, by far the longest of all time.

7. Did all of this with an aggressive slightly risky style, giving his games a satisfying artistic effect (well ..WHAT A FASTASTIC LIST MAN WELL PUT! THIS CLEARLY SHOWS KASPAROV TAKES IT :)))))

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#313
Genghiskhant wrote:
blueemu wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:

Ahh, I see now. He doesn't care about money as long as he has some.

That man just cannot be bought...... Unless he's broke.

It's sort of like taking a vow against swimming. You swear to yourself that you'll never, ever go swimming.

... unless you happen to find yourself over your head in water.

...

... it beats drowning.

I completely agree. I don't judge him for it either.

I just wouldn't include a statement about how he couldn't be bought in my fanboy posts, at the same time as telling others they should 'study chess history' before judging him.

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#314
Genghiskhant wrote:
blueemu wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:

Ahh, I see now. He doesn't care about money as long as he has some.

That man just cannot be bought...... Unless he's broke.

It's sort of like taking a vow against swimming. You swear to yourself that you'll never, ever go swimming.

... unless you happen to find yourself over your head in water.

...

... it beats drowning.

I completely agree. I don't judge him for it either.

I just wouldn't include a statement about how he couldn't be bought in my fanboy posts, at the same time as telling others they should 'study chess history' before judging him.

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#315
Genghiskhant wrote:
blueemu wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:

Ahh, I see now. He doesn't care about money as long as he has some.

That man just cannot be bought...... Unless he's broke.

It's sort of like taking a vow against swimming. You swear to yourself that you'll never, ever go swimming.

... unless you happen to find yourself over your head in water.

...

... it beats drowning.

I completely agree. I don't judge him for it either.

I just wouldn't include a statement about how he couldn't be bought in my fanboy posts, at the same time as telling others they should 'study chess history' before judging him.

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AndyClifton
Apr 1, 2013
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#316

Posts so dazzling, you wanted to see them again!

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AndyClifton
Apr 1, 2013
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#317
capakarpova wrote:

hope that finally clears it up for you.

lol...no, unfortunately it looks like I'm still waiting in darkness.

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#318

fanboy???   wtf???  my all time favorite is capa.   you shouldnt bash a dead legendary chess player who even kasparov admired and called him our greatest knight when he died.   also karpov has won more gm tournaments than anybody in history.  another fact that you in your infinite wisdom did not know.    you have to study the entire history of chess from morphy to now to have an informed logical opinion.     RIGHT?

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capakarpova
Apr 1, 2013
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#319
capakarpova wrote:
Nizman wrote:

chessman1504 wrote:

I would say Kasparov. Kasparov was...

1. World champion for 15 years.

2. The first to break the 2800 barrier.

3. The youngest classical world champion ever.

4. Won 10 super-GM tournaments in a row(!)

5. Didn't lose an event from December 1981 to February 1991.

6. Had the world number 1 rating for 255 months, by far the longest of all time.

7. Did all of this with an aggressive slightly risky style, giving his games a satisfying artistic effect (well ..WHAT A FASTASTIC LIST MAN WELL PUT! THIS CLEARLY SHOWS KASPAROV TAKES IT :)))))

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GenghisCant
Apr 1, 2013
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#320

He's snapshotting them for his book. It will go in the, 'World is against Fischer and everybody lies' sections. I imagine somewhere in chapters 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 broken up by lots of pictures.