Who really wins when somone cheats

I am of the opinion that cheating at something is actually cheating yourself,you cheat yourself of opportunity,the opportunity to improve yourself,the opportunity of gratification of winning solely on your own wits and skill,the opportunity of advancing the game,why would someone deny themself these opportunities. Laziness.

Fritz, imo. sometimes Rybka.

Considering how little value my family and friends put on my occasional victory, whether it be OTB or on chess.com, I don't see much point in doing other than my personal best to win without using anything that I'd consider cheating. In other words, I play chess for me and no one else.

 You  miss the point tonydal.I ask why they deny themselves opportunity not why they cheat .That answer is simple they cheat because winning overides their moral responsibility to play fair.

How can you cheat on chess.com? (I've been wanting to cheat, but can't figure out how to do it)

I think for some the thrill of beating a much higher rated opponent is satisfying. Trying to get your rating really high and an impeccable record. Anyone who would spend time cheating on an internet chess site doesnt truly care for chess. Perhaps they like it, but are more concerned with beating competition and earning a (good) reputation then the love of the game. Either way, its a waste of time.

They have'nt beaten anyone their computer has .Its like internet porn .I don't go round saying I've had sex with JENNA JAMESON......... whoa Just because I seen her in a movie .The principal is the same.

I am guessing the winner would be checkers.com lol, which is why erik and staff are so tough on cheaters.

The cheater does, that's why they do it.  If they cared about the philosophical implications rather than their rating, they wouldn't.

but what exactly do cheaters get out of cheating? internet rating points lol?

A small short lived sense of gratification, followed by a insatiable urge to clean.Like some illicit drug users their habit is never satisfied and spirall into addiction,so maybe there are cheat addicts out there.

The only ones who win are those who write the software to do it!

I think the reasons someone would cheat are low self esteem, jealousy of those who do well at something they do not do well, and pressure to perform at a high level. I don't see how anyone can just cheat for fun. And if they do they need to get a life.

But to your question, nobody wins when somebody cheats. The person who cheated doesn't win, they are cheating themselves. And the person who lost obviously didn't win. So nobody really wins. That's why cheating is such a disgusting thing.

i think it sad  that someone would need to cheat me I'm not that good..............yet

Lol

Anyway I'm agasint cheating like most, but how can you tell if someone is cheating and, noob chess qeustion here what is an OTB game

I hate to sound like a jerk, but the winner is the player who cheated.  That's why people cheat. Duh!

Cheating is the thing that makes some feel important when they do good

How lousy could he be.

Of course it's laziness. Cheating, as I understand it in this context, is when you use someone else's work (in this case a chess program) to substitute for your own lack of experience and knowledge. Others will choose to devote more time to improve themselves and not care about ratings enough to cheat for it.

It's immaturity when you get right down to it. A mature person can handle losing and strive to learn from it. An immature person can't deal with losing.

So, add immaturity to the laziness pile. 

Maybe A-ROD knows!  Watch his interview into why he cheated...Its been on ESPN