King343 wrote:
I think Magnus was in the right. Maurice expects every player to always play the computer moves. He should be more realistic in his analysis, as Magnus pointed out.
Who was in the right here......Magnus or Maurice
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Jun 23, 2017
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#3
King343 wrote:
While i love Maurice Ashley's commentary style, and his obvious knowledge. He is way to much into engine moves. Heck...I can do commentary if the only requirement is to repeat what the engine says should be played.
Jun 23, 2017
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#4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.[1]
RookSacrifice wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.[1]
So what are the additional options? Both were right? Neither was right? Both are sort of right and sort of not right? Both are neither right nor not right?
Jun 23, 2017
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#6
Yes, these are both options. Also, there are more options than right and not right.
Jun 23, 2017
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#7
The players are a very tight group off the board. If not tomorrow, but the next day one will confront Ashley and put him in his place. Ashley's only interest is to make himself the center of attraction. He is NOT professional. Carlson was leading at 14/18, never in danger of losing and did Ashley start with a word of congrats ? No. He began with "hiccups and your play was not smooth". He wanted Carlson to comment on Engine analysis, allowing Ashley to take center stage moving pieces about the big screen. That is his style. The players do not respect him. Watch the interviews, the eye rolling and shrugging of shoulders. They can't wait to get out of the booth. Nakamura has it down. "I wouldn't know about that, I'm outta here".
ProfessorPownall wrote:
The players are a very tight group off the board. If not tomorrow, but the next day one will confront Ashley and put him in his place. Ashley's only interest is to make himself the center of attraction. He is NOT professional. Carlson was leading at 14/18, never in danger of losing and did Ashley start with a word of congrats ? No. He began with "hiccups and your play was not smooth". He wanted Carlson to comment on Engine analysis, allowing Ashley to take center stage moving pieces about the big screen. That is his style. The players do not respect him. Watch the interviews, the eye rolling and shrugging of shoulders. They can't wait to get out of the booth. Nakamura has it down. "I wouldn't know about that, I'm outta here".
Well... he did start with a word of congrats, and then went on to talk about hiccups and Carlsen's play not being smooth.
Jun 24, 2017
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#9
Ashley is not very impressive.
Even Carlsen does not deserve to be treated like that.
If you watch the full interview, Maurice introduces Magnus by saying, "Well, we're with the King of Rapids! Magnus Carlsen has taken at least that title—not that it means anything." — a subtle jab at Carlsen for not doing well in the Classical section.
Immediately, Carlsen's body language changes. He goes from someone who's patiently offering his time for an interview, to someone who feels that he's just been openly insulted.
Maurice then asks Carlsen why, even though he won all his games, his play wasn't "smooth".
The rest kind of speaks for itself.
Jun 24, 2017
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#11
If you watch any other sport the interviewers ask tough questions.
I'd way rather see Maurice press like that than just be some fanboy.
I'd way rather see Maurice press like that than just be some fanboy.
ChrisWainscott wrote:
I definitely think that a fanboy would be worse than Maurice, but there's a good middle ground. Such as saying: I found this move interesting, what was your plan behind that move? Or: This move reminded of another game you played earlier. Did you have that in mind? There's alot of interesting, instructive, challenging questions that can be asked.
If you watch any other sport the interviewers ask tough questions.
I'd way rather see Maurice press like that than just be some fanboy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7hEnAZuB6g