Who's Better?: Bobby Fischer, Garry Kasparov, or Magnus Carlsen

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njzuraw13
Botvinnik_the_6th wrote:
njzuraw13 wrote:
Botvinnik_the_6th wrote:
tommaso_gambit wrote:

I've always been a fanatic of Carlsen, but unfortunately he retires. The second place for me goes on equal terms to Kasparov and Fischer. It would have been interesting to see a match between them. I personally would put all three in the same place. As seconds there is certainly Karpov and Caruana and as thirds Nakamura and Morphy.

Carlsen hasn't retired. Why does Caruana/Nakamura deserve to be in the goat discussion?

For just sure chess Naka would be in the convo, but overall, he shouldn't be in the top ten, let alone top five

For greatest of all time? Naka probably isn't top 30. He hasn't been consistently top 5 in the world throughout his chess career, generally somewhere in the top 5-15 spots so why is he in this conversation at all? He's currently number 2 by FIDE classical rating but heaps of people have also done that, throughout Magnus's reign and throughout chess history.

For speed chess skill alone Naka makes top 100

xxKaiju08xx
Magnus is better
IdkWhatIDoHerelel

kasparov no questions asked

Tidal_1

i say Kasparov, since bobby is a tactical player and Magnus has less experience

njzuraw13
warlard69420 wrote:
njzuraw13 wrote:
Botvinnik_the_6th wrote:
njzuraw13 wrote:
Botvinnik_the_6th wrote:
tommaso_gambit wrote:

I've always been a fanatic of Carlsen, but unfortunately he retires. The second place for me goes on equal terms to Kasparov and Fischer. It would have been interesting to see a match between them. I personally would put all three in the same place. As seconds there is certainly Karpov and Caruana and as thirds Nakamura and Morphy.

Carlsen hasn't retired. Why does Caruana/Nakamura deserve to be in the goat discussion?

For just sure chess Naka would be in the convo, but overall, he shouldn't be in the top ten, let alone top five

For greatest of all time? Naka probably isn't top 30. He hasn't been consistently top 5 in the world throughout his chess career, generally somewhere in the top 5-15 spots so why is he in this conversation at all? He's currently number 2 by FIDE classical rating but heaps of people have also done that, throughout Magnus's reign and throughout chess history.

For speed chess skill alone Naka makes top 100

Wrong. Hikaru Nakamura has zero World Rapid titles and zero World Blitz titles.

Online, at the least, Naka is a demigod, Highest ever Bullet (or was it blitz) rating of 3550! and crushing Magnus in SCC so badly that the GOAT himself admitted Nakamura was a different class of player

(Edit & addition: I've known 1 player that drew, simply drew Naka, and they freaked out for almost a straight week and immediately wrote a blog about it, just for drawing him)

brianchesscake
Outer2SpacE wrote:

i say Kasparov, since bobby is a tactical player and Magnus has less experience

by the way, Fischer quit chess in 1972 after becoming world champion when he was 29 years old. Magnus is now 32 years old (almost 33) and is showing no signs of slowing down dominating elite events.

Magnus has less experience? that's actually laughable.

IdkWhatIDoHerelel
brianchesscake wrote:
Outer2SpacE wrote:

i say Kasparov, since bobby is a tactical player and Magnus has less experience

by the way, Fischer quit chess in 1972 after becoming world champion when he was 29 years old. Magnus is now 32 years old (almost 33) and is showing no signs of slowing down dominating elite events.

Magnus has less experience? that's actually laughable.

bro still online chess is a joke

jpetersonchess

Magnus, because theory hasn't stopped (yet), and Magnus is the most active player. Bobby Fischer wasn't around in the era where there are so many opening theories

brianchesscake
IdkWhatIDoHerelel wrote:
brianchesscake wrote:
Outer2SpacE wrote:

i say Kasparov, since bobby is a tactical player and Magnus has less experience

by the way, Fischer quit chess in 1972 after becoming world champion when he was 29 years old. Magnus is now 32 years old (almost 33) and is showing no signs of slowing down dominating elite events.

Magnus has less experience? that's actually laughable.

bro still online chess is a joke

have you been living under a rock since 2010 when Magnus has been consistently dominating the top players and making it look easy?

IdkWhatIDoHerelel
brianchesscake wrote:
IdkWhatIDoHerelel wrote:
brianchesscake wrote:
Outer2SpacE wrote:

i say Kasparov, since bobby is a tactical player and Magnus has less experience

by the way, Fischer quit chess in 1972 after becoming world champion when he was 29 years old. Magnus is now 32 years old (almost 33) and is showing no signs of slowing down dominating elite events.

Magnus has less experience? that's actually laughable.

bro still online chess is a joke

have you been living under a rock since 2010 when Magnus has been consistently dominating the top players and making it look easy?

bro we only care about irl tournaments not online. still kasparov solos

CheeringTempo

bobby fischer had no chess coaches , no computers and also was wayyyyyy ahead of the field in attack and creativity...bobby is the gretest of all time

Tidal_1

agreed

hoanganh04242009

Nanum

alifromtabriz

Carlsen

eopine

Magnus is not from this world, he has a very different way of thinking. Genius!

E0108S
Magnus is!!!
Tidal_1

who cares

LuLmenPL

Carlsen

DrSpudnik

Magnus is the GOAT! He's now beating up on GMs with openings like 1. h4 or a4 etc... Throwing away a tempo and playing nonsense for the first few moves of the game.

ekcool20
But magnust is still young